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[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Don't. Stop talking with these people. Cut them out of your lives. They are child murderers.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

They have been deceived. They are - in some cases - child accidental manslaughterers.

Andrew Wakefield is a child murderer.

It's good to be angry, but let's never forget who most deeply deserves our rage. it's Andrew Wakefield. Andrew Wakefield, fraudster and disgraced former physician, piece-of-shit human (I added that one), deserves our rage.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org -1 points 2 days ago

You are delusional and going to kill children. You are a child murderer.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Listen, do not judge

The first thing to do if someone expresses uncertainty about vaccines to you, say researchers, is not to judge or dismiss them.

What your suggesting only further alienates them, and lets them live in their echo chamber.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There is no convincing morons.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Every human has the capacity to learn and change. You just have to understand their perspective and find the fallacy in their internal logic. It requires monumental amounts of patience and creative thinking to find where their misunderstanding is, present them with an argument that they can conceptualize which forces them to confront the contradictions of their position, help ease them through the difficult process of overcoming the cognitive dissonance, and then begin the long process of educating them.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They have been given opportunity to change already and continue to murder children.

[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sorry you are so simple minded and cannot see how you are blinded by your own prejudices. You're no better than them in how you approach the world. You're just the other side of that same coin.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Crankenstein@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

K. Tell me you have no idea how to argue in good faith without saying so.

[–] NotAGamer@lemmy.org 1 points 2 days ago

Allowing antivax stance results in dead kids. End of story. If you are antivax or allow antivax views then you are murdering kids.