Are they cops?
Are the ICE?
Are they cosplayers?
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this post was submitted on 19 Jun 2025
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The police problem is that police are policed by the police. Cops are accountable only to other cops, which is no accountability at all.
99.9999% of police brutality, corruption, and misconduct is never investigated, never punished, never makes the news, so it's not on this page.
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The legal doctrine of "qualified immunity" renders police officers invulnerable to lawsuits for almost anything they do. In practice, getting past 'qualified immunity' is so unlikely, it makes headlines when it happens.
All this is a path to a police state.
In a free society, police must always be under serious and skeptical public oversight, with non-cops and non-cronies in charge, issuing genuine punishment when warranted.
Police who break the law must be prosecuted like anyone else, promptly fired if guilty, and barred from ever working in law-enforcement again.
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Why do they need AR's in an urban domestic environment? It's part cosplay, part intimidation factor. At least that thug is practicing proper trigger discipline.
The AR-15 is a .22 caliber rifle designed by John Browning to sell in large quantities to governments. It's the rifle so simple that even the average US Marine can operate it. It's got all the stopping power you need for your next trip to the nearest middle school.
I think you mean .223 or more commonly known, 5.56
Are we really being pedantic about the diameter of murder lead when our nation is hip deep in fascism?
Tbf, .223 and 5.56 are both .22 caliber rounds, as is .22lr, .22 short, .22 mag, 5.7x28, .22 nosler, .22-250, .224 valkyrie, .223 Wylde, etc.
Calibre (in this case .22) describes the bore diameter in inches (in this case .22 of an inch) or 5.6mm in metric.
Also 5.56 has higher pressures and a slightly different case (but it'll fit) than .223, they're not technically the same thing, though you can shoot .223 out of a 5.56 chamber. Not recommended to shoot 5.56 out of a .223, but tbh in most modern guns you'll prob be fine (can't sue me if your shit blows up.)
Enough firepower to gravely harm a 10 year old. Makes a realistic pow sound when discharged.
No, buddy, you're confused. 5.56 is fine for killing grownups.
So is a Toyota Corolla.
Oh you're just silly? Alright buddy. There's juice in the fridge, help yourself okay?
Why are we giving the silly people the juice boxes? Juice boxes should be for closers.
I'm closing my fkn phone rn
sippy cup noises
My point is, everyone pretends an AR-15 is some high powered ultra mega death cannon. It's a small bore rifle. It genuinely was adopted because it's easy to teach the average Vietnam era draftee how to use it. It's honestly no more threatening than the 9mm pistol every last beat cop wears on his hip every second of every shift. They're both guns in the hands of maniacs.
You're still being silly as hell. The AR can be easily reconfigured for several different cartridges, some of which are quite powerful. Also, just about any rifle is far more deadly than any pistol for several reasons. Reducing the subject to a binary "can/can't kill" is charitably, infantile and if I was not feeling charitable I'd call it a bad faith argument.
... You seem to be forgetting about the difference between the width of the projectile and the actual force that it imparts.
A 5.56 round is comparable width, but it's also moving significantly faster due to the "it's a rifle round do I really need to explain this?" factor. It was designed and selected with criteria like "can enter a steel military helmet at 500 yards".
Less recoil at high rates of fire with equivalent lethality are other criteria.
A rifle having ease of use doesn't somehow make it safer than one that's harder to maintain. I'm honestly not even sure what you're thinking with that point. In your mind is a flintlock more dangerous because it's tricky to use?
Yes, it's a small bore military rifle designed with military lethality criteria with the requirement of easy operation and high accuracy at increased rates of fire.
What do you get out of trying to pretend there's no real difference between a pistol and a rifle?