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[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You are not entirely wrong. It's a boubble where no person involved benefits from saying "hey, is our budget too big?" It's basicly given, that any known brand have negative ROI on it's marketing, but we are all, so brainwashed with need for growrh, that that we know only one solution to decreasing results. Throw more money at it.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There's a reason many big corporations have pulled out of online advertisment and focus on print/radio/TV/sponsorships instead: The effectiveness of online advertisment can be measured and it sucks royally.

The whole concept of marketing is just a huge game of "the emperor's new clothes". Nobody wants to be blamed if they stop doing marketing and it turns out to actually do have an effect, even if everyone secretly knows it's garbage.

[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes! And we have examples natural experiments where becouse of the error advertise didn't launch in some regions... And nothing happened. And no one inside the industry is even talking like this. Bubble will burst on day and it will take entire free internet with it.

But measuring online is not that accurate as everyone portrait it to be. Long story short if you show ads to people waithing for the waiter in the restaurant than you can report that it had amazing "buying dinner conversion rate". We are getting better and that, and tools are getting better at forcing you to do it or obscure that you do it in the first place.. And it's still expensive as hell.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

You are right with that, but there's actually a reason why companies book adspace on searches for their own product name (e.g. Lenovo booking ad space on searches for "Lenovo"), and imho it's even worse.

That way they want to stop competitors (e.g. HP) from booking the adspace, which would lead to HP being the first hit on a search for Lenovo.

That's pretty much digital racketeering. "That's a nice website you have there. It would be a right shame if something would happen to the traffic going there."

[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 2 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

The branded searched keyword are the tip of the iceberg. Every campaign auto-optimize toward people in late stage of their purche yourney. For people wha already made.the dexision, but are not ready to purchase yet. But branded keywarods are a good example. While this is most common explanation given by the agencies - agencies LOVE the branded keywords - it's not supported buy any acctually reaserch. When one is done, almost without fail, it shows that branded ads for competitors doesn't work. Who intentionally clicks on HP ads while they intentionally searched for lenovo specifically? Users are very good at ignoring those and clicking on the next one. Organic or paid. All clicks are basicly exidental and are trash. This is a "cheap" defense from non-existing threat. You compeat alomost exclusively with your own organic.

There is even a study of a company who merged with his own competitor. Both brands existed perarelly for a while, so they choose to test those assubtions. Conclusion: waste of money. But agencies will die on the hill of branded.keywords every time.

https://pubsonline.informs.org/doi/10.1287/mnsc.2019.3534

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Oh totally, you are right with every word you say.

They are just playing with fear to justify their existence.

[–] Ideonek@lemm.ee 1 points 6 hours ago

That's refreshing to hear, thanks. I never manage to convince ANY of my coleagues.But I'll be using your "emperor is naked" methaphor mov8mg forward. It hit the nail in the head.