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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look at that, it’s working.

What's working? Iran isn't any more dependent on Russia than it was before the strikes.

I think you should look at a map sometime. Unless you are taking about Russia-China relations, but that doesn’t seem to be the context here.

There are just as many countries between Iran and Russia as there are between Iran and China, I don't see why Iran would have to allow itself to be dependent on Russia when China is just as close. Granted, Russia and Iran border the Caspian Sea so they can access each others' ports, but Iran also has ocean coast so it can access Chinese ports as well. In terms of raw numbers, Iran's exports to China value $4.59B and imports value $10B. Trade with Russia, by comparison, is $1.9B. Total.

China is actually a closer economic partner with Iran than Russia is, so why wouldn't Iran be able to turn to China?

Also, Iran is a founding member of the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank. Also also, Iran is an observer member of the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation, and looks to be in the process to become a full member eventually.

Also also also, Taiwan condemned Iran's strikes against Israel, so you know they're tight with China lol

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

There are just as many countries between Iran and Russia as there are between Iran and China...

Then why would you say China is "right there" as an argument.

Also, the premise is not that Iran is a puppet state of Russia, but that they are dependent on Russia for security from other nuclear-armed countries. Russia doesn't want Iran to get nukes because they lose that valuable bargaining chip.

Let's sum up your arguments so far.

You think that Russia can't maintain control over other nations, and I provided a direct refutation of that.

You think that China was geographically closer to Iran than Russia was, and that is refuted with Google maps.

You need to take a look at the players, their motivations and the "board" and then come back with an actual assessment instead of plainly incorrect and unfounded opinions