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A thing no one can do.
Opinion with no base. One could say >subjective
Thats both, opinion with no base and bullshit. Christians (or believers of any religion) do and have done horrible things. Being a christian / theist does not stop you from being a bad person. You want to tell me that Hitler was no true scotsman?
And thats all you can do, because you, just like me, can not tell what people think or believe.
I don't. And I think it's arrogant to pretend to know what someone believes when he states other.
Not a thing a believer couldn't do. Actually a thing believers quite often do.
Agree.
You don't know, you just think. And for what we have left on the table to examine, you're wrong.
Yet, believers commonly use the lie of "Hitler beeing atheist" as an example for atheists beeing bad people.
In conclusion, once again, a pretty wordy "no true scotsman"
Well, I can explain more of what I said again, but no I'm not wrong. If I'm wrong, then it's subjective and you're wrong. Okay so, let me explain more to you what his true belief was, which was there was no god aka an athiest: Lets go over what I said again. 1- He lied about talking to god: If that was not true, then you're claiming that hitler was shizophrinic, which is a claim I never heard before. No... lets face it without reasonable doubt, Hitler and the likes of him lie about god's message to them...etc to exploit a cult into evil idologies. Okay, that alone really shows what he really believes inside.
2- Changed religon and exploited people's faith for evil: If your belief was objectively deviant, then you either shock yourself and follow it against your own morality, or leave it seeking the truth. In hitler's case, he was the one changing scripture for his own evil gains. It does not make sense otherwise.. what are you trying to say? That hitler was someone good from the inside but he sincerely misguided himself against his own moral compass and preached evil against his own desires? and that h just became crazy evil because he had no choice but to believe the scriptures and teachings which he created then preached himself...?!
3- He comitted suicide when surrounded: He was the one doing god's message and god's work and had nothing to fear as god was on his side until the moment he dies. He was the chosen one for god's work... Where did his faith go? Go watch the interviews of people of faith. They interview Palestinian and Yemeni leaders telling them that Israel has announced their assassination unless they stop or surrender, ... they smile saying " I now have little time so I have to work harder to earn my myrtedom and meet god! I cant wait to receive this honor after all these years of work at this age. This is the message I believed and fought for until the day I die."
Hitler had no faith and knew to get away from facing consequences by dying and facing nothing afterward.. which is really somethimg only an atheist can do.
Ok bye bus arrived!
Give me quotes. I don't accept you just making shit up. Without proof, I don't care for more of the same scotsman.
did you read 1,2,3 ? how is that not as good of a proof that he was a god-denying athiest as your claim that he was misguided christian?
Bro, I'm not changing subject by asking you this, but do you really believe David Miscavige believes there is an alien who visited earth 40k years ago and they're waiting for him to save the world as the narrative of scientology says?
OOOOOOR, that the leader of of an indoctrinating/brainwashing cult with extreme views, whom he happened to be the only one to stand to directly benifit from spreading these idologies that also happened by chance to exploit his followers toward his favor, and give him unchecked power, wealth, connections, and everything.... yeah... you think mega-cult leaders also believe they're good christians who sincerly sperding god's word but it just happened that god's word was to tell his followers to buy him a private jet, but really on the inside, he belives all of he is preaching?
Well, I don't accept you trying to give me the same bullshit that a CERTIFIED PSYCHOPATH is selling his exploited followers. WITHOUT PROOF, I don't care for more of this bullshit scotsman. Criminal conciousless psychopaths "Christian preachers" with $600millions in their account who fuck kids and pay off anyone who tries to stand in their way ..., or WORSE IN HITLER'S CASE, someone who killed 6 millions people, ARE BAD PEOPLE with too-much-high conflict of intrest for me to believe anything they say especially if they USE IT TO JUSTIFY their atrocities and DIRECTLY BENIFIT from it. YEAH, I belive that alone is a huge indicator that man does not belive in a god and selling you bullshit.
Another qouestion before I end this, do you believe tha Trump believes that he cares and looks after his MAGA cult? by unequeviliantly gritfting billions of dollars off them in proven, predesigned, intentional scams in rugbulled crypto and fake merch and how he exploit their support to pass bills that benifit him and his group but hurt the same MAGA people he is selling his messages to? Well... good for you if belive Trump as well.
Go on and on, the examples are endless. Hitler was an athiest, and I don't accept his shit claim being a christian delivering god's message because it's stupid. Is what i'm saying subjective? Yes I already told you, and so is your bullshit stupid claim that hitler was not an athiest.
Yes, I did, and they are the same stuff I already adressed, so there is no need to do it again.
You clearly don't understand what proof is. All you do is point to something, then in a wordy way, say "a christian would not do that." That is not proof. That is pretending to know what approximately 2.38 billion people in the world would do - not to mention the dead ones. It's absolutely stunning that you are not capable of understanding that.
Once again: I can't read minds, and neither can you. And unless he says otherwise, we have to take his word for this. Is it a weird tale? Sure! Is it any more weird than christian tales? Absolutely not! So, by your logic, just because I cannot understand that a person actually believes all that god bogus, should I now consider each and every religious person to be lying? Every pope? Every priest? Every nun? Everyone of my neighbours? All liars and actually atheists? Tell me.
I gave you the proof. Or you could get yourself a copy of "Mein Kampf" and find the proof I pointed to first hand.
Not my fault that's the only tool in your box.
Except, I have proof to point to. You only have denial and self delusion.