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[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago (14 children)

No idea about Mamdani but does the election not mostly show that people hate Andrew Cuomo? He seemed awful.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

No, this campaign was everything you could ask for

His core platform - free and faster buses, free childcare, rent freezes, and no one making less than $1M will be paying for any of it

It's simple, it's hard to fear monger against, and it's things the people want. The best they had was "but he's Muslim"

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Thanks, interesting, but I wish him luck delivering on any of that.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You can just skip the “but”. Other policy makers either horribly fail with their much shittier policies all the time and when they do succeed that’s still a problem because those are bad policies.

And don’t worry, a lot of that stuff has already been successful in better places so it shoukd go fine.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ok fine. His platform is interesting and I wish him luck delivering on it.

Shitty policies are usually successful in the sense that they achieve or at least advance their (shitty) goals, fwiw. Are Mamdani's proposals serious (e.g. does he have financial projections for them), or are they like platitudes like wishing for world peace? Tbh I don't think the mayor has the authority to do any of that stuff.

We'll see how it goes.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Cities are often where these things start. To underestimate a mayor’s impact, especially in a city like New York, is not the play. It also sounds like you aren’t even that familiar with his platform since it took me only one simple google to find a couple examples of a costed plan.

The US is plenty happy electing people with zero plan whatsoever, and what they do have is easily disproven nonsense that has never, ever worked. Major cities and economies in the world have done, with success, what Mamdani is proposing.

For the love of god, just be happy that the United Shithole of America is finally taking a step in the right direction. It’s going to be ok, and it pretty much can’t be worse since even trying and failing would be better than purposefully destroying everything for a quick buck.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Well, we'll see what actually happens. NY has a history of chewing up mayors.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yea, their really shitty or barely mediocre mayors? This is very different from times before and I think it’s ok to be excited. If it does end up going wrong you need to know that being a massive pessimist just for the sake of the world’s most depressing “win” is not a healthy way to live. Plus, nothing is really pointing to this being a bad thing except your own evident misunderstanding of the situation.

I wish him all the best, and more than anything I hope that the federal government doesn’t sabotage him and I hope that even if they do people will be able to understand that instead of going “wow he failed! No I’m not going to think about it harder than that.”

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

massive pessimist just for the sake of the world’s most depressing “win” is not a healthy way to live.

Healthy cynicism my friend ;).

Plus, nothing is really pointing to this being a bad thing except your own evident misunderstanding of the situation.

I see a bunch of idealistic goals that don't look likely to survive contact with reality. But, like you, I wish him all the best as well.

Is the Green New Deal still around by the way? Same issue, more or less.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Literally these things have already been done with success. Your ignorance is not the definition of reality.

We know for a fact that housing people, keeping rent under control, and even offering free public transport all lead to a stronger economy and far better financial security for the 99%(which is even good for the 1% because it means people can actually buy their shit). This isn’t wishful thinking, it’s been tried in better places and the US is a perfect case study on why the centrist and right-wing ideas don’t work and have never worked.

You’re not a cynic, you’re poorly informed about the subject.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I'm not doubting all that stuff is great if Mamdami can make it happen. I'm skeptical that he can make it happen, based on having seen this kind of thing before. Heck, he hasn't even won the mayoral election yet. I'd give him 50% chance of becoming mayor, based on remembering Lieberman for Connecticut. As for the other stuff, it's all vague enough to make it easy to claim victory, at least based on what you've posted here. So I'd want to see definite success criteria based on measurable results.

[–] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 1 week ago

Yes, he's the real deal. He has the math worked out, he's got a cohesive plan, he's made alliances, he's got a ton of energy behind him, and he just nails every interview - even hostile ones

Yes, it's going to be an uphill battle. There's going to be a ton of institutional resistance... But if he can force policies through anyways, it would so huge for the entire country

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago
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