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I'm considering finally jumping off gmail. I'm not going to host my own email since I just don't have the skill to secure that thing well enough myself. Any mail server I set up would become a botnest within hours. So that has me looking at third party stuff.

Proton has a mostly good reputation, though their CEO's twitter post a while back praising the Trump regime makes me question if I should trust them with anything. I don't know enough about the entire situation to know if its just internet drama or a real concern, but anything involving Trump is a huge red flag for me.

Tuta looks pretty nice but I've read there are concerns about it being in a country that's part of the 14 eyes collaboration, so it might not matter what the organization wants if the government of the region they are in says fuck off and do what we tell you.

On the lower end of concerns, I am in the Apple ecosystem. (boo hiss I know). I like the clean and simple built in apps like email and calendar and how the notifications all work across my watch, phone, mac and homepods. I like how safari can just jump in and throw an email alias at things for me. I like how all my stuff is managed. But I also know Apple could piss me off at any moment and make wild sweeping changes I might not like, so relying on them too much could screw me over someday. I dont know, right now I really like their setup but portability does seem to matter more ultimately so this switch does seem like a better idea in the long run, even if I'm giving up features I may enjoy.

What are your opinions on the privacy email and calendar services in 2025? Should I even both with a cloud based calendar in the first place?

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[–] Outwit1294@lemmy.today 3 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I moved from gmail to Apple mail. I know this is not ideal for privacy but it is better than 2 parties having access to my data.

I want to move to a more privacy focused provider but I get unlimited aliases with iCloud+ at very cheap.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I use icloud+ aliases for some things but want to branch out and use email aliases for everything I can once I switch so if something get compromised I can just blow it up and move to another alias. I'm tired of scammers and spam. But having it go through icloud then being forwarded elsewhere means apple is seeing the message first, which seems like unnecessary exposure.

[–] Outwit1294@lemmy.today 1 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

I assume Apple already sees everything because I use their device. Might as well cut out the third party.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

but I might not be staying with apple forever. it makes sense to keep things portable.

[–] Outwit1294@lemmy.today 1 points 3 hours ago

True. I have moved my passwords and 2FA to third parties to avoid dependence in critical matters.