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[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

EU plugs designed in the past 50 years also have half-exposed pins and EU sockets from the past 30 years also have little rubber flaps that only open if they're pressed both at the same time (I've tried it, it works really well, I couldn't get a singular multimeter prong in my outlet until I used the second prong). There are no exposed live conductors anywhere in my house.

Nowadays the main practical difference between EU and UK plugs is the "lack" of a fuse, except any semi-modern appliance that could make use of a fuse should include one internally. In every other situation circuit breakers work fine, UK plugs have fuses because they historically couldn't rely on the circuit breaker existing.

Nowadays the regulatory focus is not on plugs, which are fine, but on GFCI. Gotta put one 30 mA differential per electrical circuit in kitchens/bathrooms and a whole house 300 mA differential. That's a much safer way to detect electrocution than wait until several amps have been going through the plug because all you're getting by the time the fuse trips is a fried person sandwich.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I swear Brits love regurgitating that Tom Scott video, even though it is massively hyperbolic and exaggerated and completely ignores that specific British context which made the fuse necessary.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

EU sockets from the past 30 years also have little rubber flaps that only open if they’re pressed both at the same time

This looks like BS.

US required TR plugs starting in 2008, and it looks like a EU directive in 2001 recommended them but left it up to individual countries and says there’s still no eu-wide mandate. Unless the search ai is lying, US and EU did this at about the same time but US had a larger mandate

[–] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Anecdotally I haven't seen a plug in Belgium that didn't have them that also wasn't ancient. Dunno if the RGIE requires it, I can't be arsed to find out, but the risk/reward for manufacturers considering lawsuits probably tips it in favor of safety given how inexpensive the mechanism is.

Also it is worth noting that the plug hole is much smaller on EU outlets than NEMA, and recessed. Even with exposed conductors it would take a determined toddler to find something small enough to reach inside (basically a needle or small screwdriver which they should not be playing with to begin with).

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I can see the recessed shape being a nice safety improvement, although I’m used to what I’ve lived with and haven’t killed myself that way yet, so I’d still probably err on the side of convenience, less bulk.

An interesting consequence of the flat faced outlet is so many shapes and sizes of plugs around the same standard prongs, and now I do nt want to do without them