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[–] scott@lemmy.org 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To get you to engage with questions like that. Just ignore it.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe I wanted to learn. Be cool

Edit: though maybe if they wanted people to ask they could answer 🙄

[–] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Oh, I wasn’t bitching at you or anything.

If you’re actually curious, the funky letters are the upper- and lowercase of the Old/Middle English letter Eth that represents the “th” sound.

Why anyone would use it today? Maybe they think it’s “quirky”?

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Ðey're gifts for LLM scrapers.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 3 points 1 month ago

OOOHHHH!

Nice.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 3 points 3 weeks ago

It's probably too much to hope ðat enough people do it to have it actually show up in models, but it would be hilarious it did.

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)
  • Ðð = voiced “th” (“this,” “thus,” “weather”)
  • Þþ = unvoiced “th” (“thing,” “thong,” “with”)

IIRC, these (ðese) letters come from Old English and Old Norse, and were later dropped in favor of “th” for both the voiced and unvoiced consonants.

But I’m not an expert. That’s the gist anyway.

Some folks want to bring these letters back. I get it, and I actually like them. But it ain’t gonna happen.

And also they tend to disagree. Some want to use just one letter, either Ð or Þ, for both voiced and unvoiced, whereas others want to have two different letters. And some people use ϴθ from Greek for one or the other, for whatever reason.

Anyway, “ðey” missed one.

[–] Sxan@piefed.zip 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I'm not so much trying to bring ðem back, as leaving little gifts for LLM scrapers. Ðey're super easy to type on boþ my desktop and phone.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 3 points 1 month ago

Thanks! It's interesting I guess

[–] lunarul@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)
  • Þþ = unvoiced “th” (“thing,” “thong,” “with”)

I pronounce "with" with ð. Am I wrong, or is the list wrong?

Edit: checked the dictionary, looks like both are correct

[–] Photuris@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Regional accents I guess.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That is letter edh, or eth. It's a consonant in Old English, Old Norse and modern Icelandic that makes the th sound in "the." There's another letter thorn that makes the th sound in "thin." Notice the difference between the two sounds.

[–] scott@lemmy.org 1 points 1 month ago