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Well, by "working" I mean providing a framework for all of its citizens to pursue prosperity and happiness. "Working/success" would mean that none of the atrocities were able to happen, and different leaders would have been selected.
This is a bit of an idealistic look at things, rather than a materialist outlook. Socialist countries, past and present, have been faced with real problems. Their issues weren't about "finding the right leader" or "picking the right recipe," but largely real struggles that any country tasked with needing rapid industrialization while defending against foreign invasion and subversion would need to.
Socialism isn't about deciding on the right recipe, but analyzing historical progression and its laws so as to master them and wield them in our favor. No socialist country has been an outright "failure," not even the ones that no longer exist.
Further, the person you are talking with is doing Nazi apologia via "Double Genocide Theory," they aren't a very serious person.