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I don't like The Grayzone but, otherwise, yeah, would've been helpful.
This article seems helpful at least, but yeah, just give us a damn list.
Ever since Ben Norton was let go, the Grayzone alternates between incredibly insightful news into the inner workings and oppression of global Amerikkkan fascist imperialism, and reich-wing nonsense.
Yeah they just haven't been the same since Ben Norton left. He really was keeping the whole thing sane and grounded.
On the plus side though, Ben is apparently doing really well and is just living his best life in China. I'm happy for him.
I'm incredibly jealous of Ben Norton.
Not that he owes me or anyone anything, but I emailed him once and introduced myself as a fellow comrade, and while he had no reason to trust me, and I wasn't expecting him to offer any assistance or very many tips for my family and I to get to China, I was hoping he could point me in the right direction, and I was fucking crushed when he basically told me off.
I really wanted to tell him to go fuck himself, but I didn't want to burn that bridge.
And he didn't even have an ounce of courtesy or anything.
I think he's a douchebag now.
I love his content, but as a person, my opinion of him really fucking soured, and it hurt and pissed me off because he was a personal hero of mine, even though I don't like to idolize people.
It's true: Never meet or interact with your heroes.
Conversely I talked to Kit Klarenberg a couple times and he was super nice each time
Kit Klarenberg is really fucking cool. And so is Kevin Walmsley. I've actually emailed Walmsley, and he is a very good guy.
Not really. It's just support for ACP freaks and Covid conspiracism.
I've rarely seen support for ACP on the Grayzone, but I don't browse the site often.
Read their Twitter.
I'm banned from Twitter. But I'm 99 percent sure that you're right, sounds like something those douchebags would do. I'll take your word for it.
Yeah, the one that heads The Grayzone is a real piece of work. That's why he had a falling out with Ben Norton.
I'm aware. Max Blumenthal is a tool.
To be fair, from what you said, Ben Norton seems aloof and arrogant, to some point, so that probably contributed to it.