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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Maybe, but that would be better than just saying I "disagree with facts" while being cagey about what those "facts" are. That's just ad hominem (and I mean that genuinely, you're trying to discredit me through insult, not just insult me).

Either way, ultimately, this topic has shifted entirely from the base of the conversation, which is trying to find a good measure of economic productivity, and how focusing on financialized capital masked by GDP obscures actual productivity. It's why imperialist countries are declining, and why the PRC is rising. I don't think we disagree that western countries are going downhill and that the PRC is improving, so identifying why is productive.

[–] nebulaone@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think we have come to some kind of a conclusion that neither of us is willing to part from. Maybe I am the idiot and wrong, but I'm good on this for now. Maybe I'll have some more energy another day.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Fair enough. I recommend reading the ProleWiki page on imperialism I linked, it's much shorter than reading Lenin (though you absolutely should) and can help get you to look at the problems (presumably) we both experience in decaying western countries, and how we can chart a course for a better world. You can't find solutions without proper analysis of the underlying problems.