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[โ€“] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yeah that'd work if there is no special treatment for French farmers etc too. People like to paint Brexit as a simplistic thing - some kind of simplistic jingositic thing - but actually it was complex and multifaceted - the common agricultural policy, the democratic deficit in the centre of the EU, the constant paralysis instead of decision making. All these things contributed as different people voted on different grounds. The loud and bombastic voices of Farrage and Johnson may have dominated the media narrative but it barely scratches the surface of how deep the divisions over Europe actually go.

The reality is I don't think the UK would vote to rejoin even if people regret leaving. Any deal to rejoin would be worse than what was lost particularly around joining the Eurozone and the disproportionate cost of membership in terms of subsidising CAP etc. It'd be a very difficult sell to the UK voters and as we get further from Brexit the damage is perceived to be less and less.

The EU needs serious reform. I wanted to remain as I thought Britain could have besn a voice to push that but looking at how the EU is currently I don't want to rejoin. I wouldn't want to be be in the EU while Hungary can hold everything up and is not accountable for its loss of democracy. Poland just avoided a damaging right wing government for now, but they already diamantled much of the liberal state and the left are struggling to rebuild it. France is divided 3 ways and the upcoming presidential election brings much uncertainty. I can't imaging any politician in Europe wants to even think about Britain rejoining, and in the UK it remains a highly divisive and controversial topic.

I'm glad people in the EU are patriotic about it, and want it to succeed. As a Brit I want it to succeed too. But genuinely as much as I wanted to stay I would vote against rejoining if asked right now. There is not a clamour to rejoin at the present - people may regret Brexit but that is not the same as wanting to go through the bruising process of rejoining.

[โ€“] woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

disproportionate cost of membership

Disproportionate were Thatcher's UK Rebate and other unfair opt-outs.