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Ukraine tells critics of slow counteroffensive to 'shut up' (www.reuters.com)

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[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -1 points 1 year ago

“Reportedly” means “others report”.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to break off talks with Russia

Hmm let's look at the source on that: Ukrainska Pravda, a Ukranian language paper headquartered in Kyiv, owned by a Ukranian investment company also headquartered in Kyiv.

Kremlin propaganda!

[-] sunbeam60@lemmy.one -3 points 1 year ago

Sigh.

You do understand how propaganda works, right? It works by zooming in on molehills until they appear like mountains. So while I wouldn’t rule out that Johnson the Idiot said something unwise to Zelensky government, I also don’t automatically think that it means Zelenski was “forced to not give up”.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

Sigh

farquaad-point redditor!

I also don’t automatically think that it means Zelenski was “forced to not give up”.

Ukraine negotiates ceasefire.
BJ tells Ukraine to not go through with it.
Ukraine does not go through with it.

Why else would Ukraine have reversed course if not for one of its NATO puppetmasters commanding it to? Either it's that, or BJ making a really impassioned argument for sending a bunch of Ukranians to an early grave and Zelensky fell for it, or Zelensky just changed his mind all on his own and the timing is a pure coincidence.