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[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

...specifics about WHY IP addresses and multi-hop don't matter.

...you would have removed 1 identifier...

So it can matter.

[–] protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

barely, efectively meaningless

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, multi-hop is pointless for tracking. The logic to it is crazy too. People think VPNs make them anonymous (they don't), but they also think multi-hop makes them MORE anonymous. So anonymity is kind of an absolute concept. Either you are or you are not anonymous. You can't be more anonymous than anonymous. There is no +1.

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, multi-hop is pointless for tracking.

The logic to it is crazy too. People think VPNs make them anonymous (they don't), but they also think multi-hop makes them MORE anonymous.

Whether multi-hop matters to tracking is far and away a different discussion than whether multi-hop "makes you anonymous".

I too disagree with the original comment, but also believe the pendulum swung too far the other direction in your replies.

Situations differ. Threat models differ. More hops can, from direct personal experience, make the difference in tracking. Your claim of "...multi-hop is pointless for tracking." has too broad of a scope to be correct.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

What specifically about multi-hop makes you think it improves your security? Be specific. What is your "direct personal experience"?

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

So it can matter.

Remember to read the rest of that sentence:

1 identifier out of a hundred (one that isn't really used anyway given SSAI is so popular).

So, no. Not really.

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Remember to read the rest of that sentence:

It doesn't change the contradiction.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You almost had the rest of the sentence there:

one that isn't really used anyway given SSAI is so popular

[–] unhrpetby@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

You almost had the rest of the sentence there:

That doesn't change the contradiction.

[–] Mordikan@kbin.earth 1 points 2 hours ago

You're trying to argue without evidence (like I had provided). To summarize these exchange so far its:

  1. You giving some marketing crap you read from a VPN provider site on their multi-hop service.
  2. Someone pointing out that it is incorrect with evidence.
  3. You get mad and basically come back with "Nuh-uh!"

Is there some evidence you'd like to provide or is it going to be another "nuh-uh!"?