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[–] 58008@lemmy.world 215 points 4 days ago (2 children)

This is somehow more offensive to my brain than if they'd simply said "electricity is god". The way they completely muddy the issue, making the reader not just misinformed but made to feel complacent, like there's no correct information to be found, is way more grotesque. It shuts down the mind of the reader. It's anti-education.

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 94 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

That is the sense of religion and because it is so used by goverments. Ignorant and submisive people are easier to dominate and manipulate.

[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 32 points 4 days ago

Holy crap that art is freakily accurate to reality

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Actually there is also religions promoting science and research.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_attitudes_towards_science

A number of modern scholars such as Fielding H. Garrison, Sultan Bashir Mahmood, Hossein Nasr consider modern science and the scientific method to have been greatly inspired by Muslim scientists who introduced a modern empirical, experimental and quantitative approach to scientific inquiry. Certain advances made by medieval Muslim astronomers, geographers and mathematicians were motivated by problems presented in Islamic scripture, such as Al-Khwarizmi's (c. 780–850) development of algebra in order to solve the Islamic inheritance laws,[18] and developments in astronomy, geography, spherical geometry and spherical trigonometry in order to determine the direction of the Qibla, the times of Salah prayers, and the dates of the Islamic calendar.[19] These new studies of math and science would allow for the Islamic world to get ahead of the rest of the world. ‘With these inspiration at work, Muslim mathematicians and astronomers contributed significantly to the development to just about every domain of mathematics between the eight and fifteenth centuries"[20]

Many Muslims agree that doing science is an act of religious merit, even a collective duty of the Muslim community.[61] According to M. Shamsher Ali, there are around 750 verses in the Quran dealing with natural phenomena. According to the Encyclopedia of the Quran, many verses of the Quran ask mankind to study nature, and this has been interpreted to mean an encouragement for scientific inquiry,[62] and the investigation of the truth.[62] Some include, "Travel throughout the earth and see how He brings life into being" (Q29:20), "Behold in the creation of the heavens and the earth, and the alternation of night and day, there are indeed signs for men of understanding ..." (Q3:190)

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Yes, but the religious accapt only the amount of science until it don't denies their dogma.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The Baha'i faith teaches that there can never be a conflict between their faith and science. Anything in the past against what science has shown to be true now is considered allegorical.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%CA%BC%C3%AD_views_on_science

[–] Zerush@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

The only religions which accept and foment all science, are the atee ones (buddism, taoism..), because they are centred in the own spiritual perfection. There isn't any science which denies their philosophy, even the opposite.

"If science proves some belief of Buddhism wrong, then Buddhism will have to change."

Dalai Lama

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 2 points 4 days ago

Religion doesn't exist outside society; that dogma is determined by what is useful to those in society with the power to promote it. This is why under the multi-cultural Ottoman Empire they came up with all sorts of justifications to expand the definition of "people of the book" to include basically every significant religious minority except Hindus, and that was only a matter of time, and why fundamentalists who want to return to the 1300s were promoted funded by the British/US/Saudis.

Same applies to any ideology or philosophy. To pretend otherwise is liberal idealism.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 4 days ago

I would like to add on, that the Islamic Goldern Age is why we still know about Greek philsophers, have the concept of algebra, or why the scientific method exists.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age

[–] ubergeek@lemmy.today 21 points 4 days ago

I think its more than what you claimed... They are just objectively incorrect facts. Many people have felt electricity, we know where it comes from, what causes it, and how to control it, even.