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Sucks that men's issues are being treated as a joke or mischaracterized as something else and not important.
I think a big issue is that third places have disappeared or not kept up with culture. All that's near me are bars and Masonic Lodges, younger men are trying to drink less and don't want to wear weird robes to hang out with other guys.
Are younger men trying to drink less, or do they just have less expendable income to go to bars and such?
both
Yup. The dangers are way more understood now. Between that and price, the wine industry is in tears right now. They have had worst sales YOY for last couple years than in recent history.
The entire alcohol industry is in decline because of younger drinkers, or lack thereof... Worst hit is Champagne, then wine. Expensive liqours and domestic beer have been hit pretty hard. Microbrewers are having the business trouble they always have, but most seem to be doing alright with the younger crowd with hard seltzer options.
I'm a Freemason, but I haven't been to lodge since one of the guys there went off on a hugely racist rant against Italians. They're just too old, young guys (I'm the youngest by at least 15 years) don't really fit in and it's going to kill Freemasonry.
There seem to be at least some chapters who recognize this and are working on recruiting/retaining young blood, but idk - seems like a hard sell these days.
And this is coming from someone who likes the idea of all the rites and rituals and stuff. Shit just seems to get expensive the further along you go.
I hope that's true, it's a really cool organization with deep roots. I'm also really into the ritual it's super rad I just wish my lodge wasn't so... 😬 You know what I mean?
Meanwhile I met most of my friends through the SCA.
No judgement, just thought it was funny
Almost like this person is part of the problem.