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when i first heard about the male loneliness epidemic i was like oh yeah close camaraderie and bonding between men is often discouraged in favor of competition or, if not discouraged, at least filtered through a lens of individualism that precludes deep connections. and then i learned what people meant by it (men arent getting laid) to which i say skill issue
to all the men out there not getting laid: try less hard to get laid and try more hard to be an enjoyable and relaxing presence
Pulling yourself up by your bootstraps is something that’s literally impossible to do. Telling a person that if they are struggling to meet women the first thing they should do is hang out in settings where women exist is literally just common sense, you even said it’s a pointless truism because of how obvious it is. Yet somehow many people are complaining about not meeting people and me saying you should hang out women is controversial…
I am saying there isn’t a widespread problem and isn’t causing it the “male loneliness epidemic” really cementing the lack of problem as if it was wide widespread and considering the majority of men are straight that women would also be affected?
I am once again saying the same thing I have been saying there is a growing group of people who are just complaining about a problem without taking steps to fix it and the rise of online message boards and engagement algorithms has created echo chambers that people get stuck in and a person should take the “obvious” steps to self improvement before writing off all their problems as “society”
I don't know what to say because you're just talking past any logical argument....
"We can't meet potential partners"
"JUST MEET WOMEM"
Uhhhh.... OK? You can say that but it doesn't make it true, all trends are pointing away from serious romantic experiences. Nearly 80% of baby boomers experienced a romantic relationships in their teenage years compared to 56% of Gen Z adults. In 2021, 54% of people ages 18-34 reported not having a steady partner compared to 33% in 2004.
They are? Women and men report dating is harder than it was before. Less singles overall are dating. Women have more fear for their physical/emotional saftey in the modern pseudo-anonymous dating pool.
A big reason it's framed as a male loneliness problem is the significant skew for women to be in committed relationships with older men, leaving younger men with an even larger singles cohort (32% of single women are ages 18-29 vs 51% of single men).
It's not that hard to do the research and have an informed opinion. Just writing everything off as an echo chamber effect doesn't work when there's measurable events in the real world. Unless you have actual evidence that it's a problem with their collective dating efforts then there's no argument to be made. It's not even based on anecdotal evidence, you're just saying you think all these commenters haven't tried your advice.
Are you referencing the pew research study that also found that a large percentage of those men weren’t looking for a relationship
Or the part where they define single to include casual relationships
One of the top reasons women didn’t want to date a man was Donald Trump
Men who were looking had their number one reason being “hard for them to approach people”
Did you also see the part where women were the ones most likely to say dating is harder now than it used to be largely out of fear of harassment
And while 12% say it’s harder to date because of technology 41% say it’s easier to date because of technology
You do know it’s possible to read information analyze that data and use it to form an opinion but since you don’t actually seem interested in that opinion and all you want to do is attack you can do that by yourself
I give up. You're just saying things for the sake of saying them. Literally none of that supports your hypothesis that it's a personal failing that can be cured by getting hobbies.
You really sound like someone who hasn't dated recently or knows any young people in the dating pool. Of the people I know, the research fits their complaints to the letter. They do work harder on self improvement than older generations ever did (mental health, physical health, public image on social media, etc...) with no results. Saying just go meet people is condescending, like a boomer telling people to get jobs by handing out printed resumes.