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Pragmatic Leftist Theory

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The neolibs are too far right. The tankies are doing whatever that is. Where's the space for the people who want fully-automated-luxury-gay-space-communism, but realize that it's gonna take a while and there are lots of steps between now and then? Here. This is that space.

Here, people should endeavor to discuss and devise practical, actionable leftist action. Vote lesser evil while you build grassroots coalitions. Unionize your workplace. Participate in SRAs. Build cohesion your local community. Educate the proletariat.

This is a place for practical people to develop practical plans to implement stable, incremental improvement.

If you're dead-set on drumming up all 18,453 True Leftists® into spontaneous Revolution, go somewhere else. The grown ups are talking.

Rules:

-1. Don't be a dick. Racism, sexism, other assorted bigotries, you know the drill. At least try to default to mutually respectful discussion. We're all on the same side here, unless you aren't, in which case kindly leave.

-2. Don't be a tankie. Yes I'm sure you have an extensive knowledge of century-old theory. There's been a century of history since then. Things didn't shake out as expected, maybe consider the possibility that a different angle of attack might be more effective in light of new data.

-3. Be practical. No one on the left benefits from counterproductive actions. This is a space informed by, not enslaved to, ideology. Promoting actions that are fundamentally untenable in the system in question, because they fulfill a sense of ideological purity, is a bad look. Don't do that.

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You can snap your fingers tomorrow, and it's the day after the revolution, time to sign the Constitution. How does it work?

Assume total creative control, but once it's written it's in the hands of the general population. They will eventually twist and distort it any way they can.

ETA: I should have been more specific. I'm looking more for basic structure, not policy. Monarchy, direct democracy, democratic republic, that angle. Should everything be a pure democracy referendum? Should we delegate to representatives? How much power do we give them? How do we delineate governmental strata (nation, state, county, city, neighborhood, etc.)? How do we allocate authority to those strata? How do we divide powers, and how do those powers check one another?

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I mean, it's pretty damn big concept to try and squeeze into this kind of setting.

But to spitball it like an elevator pitch, call it socialized economy with baked in core rights around a representative democracy. Strong term limits, ranked choice voting, explicit forbiddence of the worst facets of fascism and bigotry and a clear line that all rights are to be held by all people within the country in question.

Exactly what rights get enumerated is up in the air, but I'd say that freedom of speech and press beyond the bare minimum restrictions against fascism and bigotry are a no brainer. Due process has to be in there. I favor jury trials heavily as well.

I tend to be against any limitations on arms that are only limited for the general populace, but I'm open to negotiations on exactly what that means as long as someone has a realistic plan on making those restrictions stick across the board. Wanna ban a class of weapons? Great, make a plan to destroy every single one and prevent them being made again. No exceptions for anyone, so make damn sure the military can make do with whatever gets allowed.

Under due process and equal protection, it has to be very clearly explained that there's no fuckery. IDGAF if in a hundred years some trick of mutation gives rise the the fucking X-Men only they all look like the toxic avenger, they have the same rights as everyone else.

This includes, but is not limited to what I consider the ultimate right that all others should protect: body autonomy. Wanna have your nose cut off and replaced with a dildo? That's on you. As absurd as that is as a possibility, that's what body autonomy means. Your right to own your own body is not negotiable. Now, you can't force anyone to do the work, but that's a separate issue entirely. There's a laundry list of shit that shouldn't even be a question.

That's the basics.