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Sort of a follow up to my topic asking why NDE Research wasn't taken seriously. Which btw I got great replies to.

I was expecting the usual "Oh near death isn't REALLY death." And "Because its bullshit." Strawman non answers

But instead I got people interfacing with the data and pointing out that an afterlife was no the direction the data headed outside of spirituality circles that did not interpret the data correctly to begin with.

So looking at how everything to do with conciousness leads to the brain and how we have discovered that a sense of self separate from the body is illusionary.

I have to ask

Is it an open secret that the afterlife is debunked?

I can find tons of arguments and information against it and the only thing supporting basically going "Well the brain is your conciousness but no one knows for sure."

So a "I'm not saying no, but I sure as hell am not saying yes." Being the strongest yes isn't exactly reassuring. It makes me think the "I don't know" is actually a "no" trying to be polite

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[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I spent most of my life being spiritual and looking forward to the afterlife, as a day when I would become a spirit and one with the cosmic forces of the universe in a literal non-figurative sense.

To know that there is only oblivion is a curse, but damn the false hope for being false. Damn it to the Hell that isn't

[–] morgan_423@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Oblivion isn't as scary as one thinks it is. Science actually believes in a reincarnation of sorts, and oblivion would help us easily pass the time in between lifetimes.

Basically, with no ability to experience stimuli or the passage of time, and no way to have any thoughts or experiences whatsoever... the quintillions of years until the end of the universe, and potentially through universes beyond where you don't exist, would pass in what would feel like the blink of an eye to you.

It's thought that after an absolutely ridiculous amount of time, we'll have a Poincaré recurrence of the entire current universe, history and all, and you'll end up being conceived to live your life again. The good news is that once you have died, oblivion would make it so that you don't really have to experience that in-between period at all.

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago

But I'm trans, you mean I have to deal with gender dysphoria AGAIN?