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California man sues Microsoft for discontinuing Windows 10 — says company is doing this to “monopolize the generative AI market” (www.tomshardware.com)
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Lawrence Klein, who’s based in Southern California, filed a complaint against Microsoft in the San Diego Superior Court over its plan to discontinue support for Windows 10 by October 14, 2025. According to the Courthouse News Service, Klein owns two Windows 10 laptops, both of which will become obsolete come October. He asserts that Microsoft is making this move “to force its customers to purchase new devices optimized to run Microsoft’s suite of generative artificial intelligence (AI) software such as Copilot, which comes bundled with Windows 11 by default.”

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[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 44 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Let's take it back to 7 if we can.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Windows 2000.

[–] SlothMama@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

XP please

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Gross

[–] yuri@pawb.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

everything was so nice and round

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes, we know you want to fuck it. That's why we can't have it.

[–] redwattlebird 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

W98 please

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The original 98 or would you like to try 98SE?

[–] redwattlebird 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I never had SE. What's it like?

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I wouldn't be able to tell you more than it's an updated version with some new features added...

According to Wikipedia:

Windows 98 Second Edition (often shortened to Windows 98 SE and sometimes to Win98 SE or 98 SE)[76] is an updated version of Windows 98 released on June 10, 1999, about eight months before the release of the business-oriented Windows 2000.[77] It includes many bug fixes,[78] improved WDM audio and modem support, improved USB support,[76] added SSE2 support, the replacement of Internet Explorer 4.0 with Internet Explorer 5.0,[78] Web Folders (WebDAV namespace extension for Windows Explorer),[79] and related shell updates. Also included is basic OHCI-compliant FireWire DV camcorder support (MSDV class driver) and SBP-2 support for mass storage class devices.[80] Wake-On-LAN reenables suspended networked computers due to network activity, and Internet Connection Sharing allows multiple networked client computers to share an Internet connection via a single host computer.[78]

Other features in the update include DirectX 6.1 which introduced major improvements to DirectSound and the introduction of DirectMusic,[78] improvements to Asynchronous Transfer Mode support (IP/ATM, PPP/ATM and WinSock 2/ATM support), Windows Media Player 6.1 replacing the older Media Player 4.1,[76] Microsoft NetMeeting 3.0,[81] MDAC 2.1 and WMI. A memory overflow issue was resolved in which earlier versions of Windows 98 would crash most systems if left running for 49.7 days (equal to 232 milliseconds); this bug was also present on its predecessor, Windows 95.[82] Windows 98 SE could be obtained as retail upgrade and full version packages, as well as OEM and a Second Edition Updates Disc for existing Windows 98 users. USB audio device class support is present from Windows 98 SE onwards. Windows 98 Second Edition improved WDM support in general for all devices, and it introduced support for WDM for modems (and therefore USB modems and virtual COM ports). However, Microsoft driver support for both USB printers and USB mass-storage device class is not available for Windows 98.

Removed features

The Active Channels Channel bar from the original release of Windows 98 is not installed upon first boot, however it is retained when upgrading from the original release of Windows 98 to Windows 98 Second Edition.

Windows 98 Second Edition did not ship with the WinG API or RealPlayer 4.0, unlike the original release of Windows 98, due to both of these having been superseded by DirectX and Windows Media Player, respectively. On the other hand, ActiveMovie still exists in Windows 98 Second Edition despite having been superseded by Windows Media Player.

[–] pheggs@feddit.org 5 points 2 weeks ago

maybe we can go even further back in time and make sure it's not born at all?

[–] Zink@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago

I had a great experience on Win7 for the most part. But now being used to Linux for all tasks on all PCs, there is no real nostalgia or yearning to return.