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Trump Floats Deploying National Guard to New York, Chicago, and LA After DC Crack Down
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Look, the Epstein shit is important, and it's important that we keep it in the conversation, but this isn't a fucking distraction. Do people seriously not understand how dire this is? This isn't a fucking joke. We are deep into full-on fascism now.
I work at Microsoft and they just did massive layoffs all of this year. Last round I was layed off. 9000 of us in the last round.
I say this, because, I think people might associate tech jobs and education with being more liberal and pro immigrantion. This is not the case at all. The liberals are being offered fascism as a means to deal with their unemployment and will accept it with open arms as their material conditions decline. Most people I know from my job would absolutely join ICE for the paycheck as the tech sector lays off more and more people.
I'm sure we are seeing this in other industries as well. But just sharing for mine. ICE is going to look like an attractive job for a lot "middle class" Americans to be able to make rent. None of them are having class conflict conversations either. These people have next to no idea of what is going on.
We will not just get the hogs joining ICE. You're gonna see a lot of liberals start to justify it as their livelihood starts to get connected to it too. This is how fascism works.
I watched a documentary a couple days ago about a school counselor who got laid off and needed to join ICE to make his monthly nut.
Yeah, no. Fuck that.
They're talking about South Park.
A nut’s a nut and they’re hiring.
Is not a valid excuse for collaborating with fascists. It wasn't for the Nazis, it's not for the IDF, and it isn't for ICE/Trump regime.
Fuck anyone who normalizes this.
Must be nice to be rich or out of touch enough to be idealistic.
Yeah nah fuck that and fuck you
You sir have won this conversation with your carefully crafted argument.
I don't craft arguments against fascist sympathizers
Well I’m glad you don’t think I’m one!
you haven’t got a clue how many poor people have stood up against fascism throughout the last century. Fuck these excuses.
Worst part was all the people on Lemmy saying they are normalizing people joining ICE. Uhh no. They aren't. They were showing a very real situation that has historical significance for many of history's past fascist regimes.
that school counselor couldn't texplain who has a $8000 monthly nut. though. wtf
"... and needed to join ICE to make his monthly nut."
You mean like this?
That's a really good point. I remember at the most recent DEFCON, Cory Doctorow got a heckton of cheers when he was talking about tech workers waking up to the fact that they were workers, and are beginning to push towards unionising. In the comments, people were glad to hear the cheers, seeing it as evidence of the shifting tide that Doctorow spoke of.
However, as you highlight, this mass squeezing of the middle class will also send a significant chunk of people over to Fascism. We definitely shouldn't become complacent
I would say there are definitely some people that care as the industry becomes more and more exploited for its labor. But I have yet to meet a software developer that has connected their pro labor sentiment to real class solidarity.
Most complain about H1 people taking their jobs but blame the H1 people themselves and not the corporation that is exploiting their labor.
I try to explain to them that there is no labor movement in our industry that will be successful without H1 holders being on our side at the negotiating table.
It's a really hard thing to get through to a lot of people.
When the economy crashes it will be the ICE half of the poor killing the other half poor - that's the plan.
thanks man, finally someone else saying it!
We’ve been chasing the dragon since 2016: This is gonna bring him down, that is gonna bring him down, oh no but wait, this is definitely going to finish him off. How is the Epstein story ever going to harm him in any way?
In reality those things are the distractions from the real shit that’s been happening. Now that he’s accelerating his fascist actions in plain sight, how dare anyone say it’s just a distraction? This narrative only works in his favour, jfc.
As someone watching from out side, no shit. The us has crossed the Rubicon a while ago, no longer a nation based on laws, no longer a place that people have rights, no longer a place with free elections (well this one has been around for a bit with the stupid 2 party system) and no longer a place other nations want to do business with.
The most infuriating part of this has been watching americans (and more of the rest of the world then I would have liked) act like this is all potentially bad and then normalizing just flat out dystopian shit. Like shit this is not even the first place troops have been deployed to put down political "wrong speak".
This is exactly whats happening. Every fascist act is normalized. There is no line to cross. There are just constant moves that are more and more harmful. Sinclair Lewis wrote about this almost 100 years ago.
Yes, that's how it happened last time as well.
it's all important. don't lose sight of any of it
I've been trying not to. And I am losing my mind.