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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)
  • He assumed this ridiculous beef-only diet. Potatoes or pasta would be around 0.5 kg.

  • He included CO2 in the production of the beef but not of the gas. That would amount to another 50% or so.

  • He assumed a more efficient than average car for Switzerland, 7l would have been fairer. And on shorter distances it gets worse, e.g. on daily commutes.

  • He assumed 4 people but cars on average carry around 1.5.

  • He ignored grey energy in the car and bike production, which would make the bike look way better. Whenever he's railing against EVs he includes grey energy because then it makes traditional cars look better.

  • There are also some hard to calculate benefits for public health in cycling.

  • Cycling for travel might substitute other sports activity that would have used the same amount of food.

  • Cyclists generally cover less distance than drivers. A 1-to-1 comparison the same distance might not be sensible in the first place. If you cycle you try to find nearby destinations, so from a public policy perspective encouraging more cyclists also implies less total distance traveled.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

Cyclists generally cover less distance than drivers.

My partner recently had her car MOT done and I can confirm I cycle more than she drives in a year. Would be very interested to know the average speed of each though as I can often cycle past cars that are waiting at the lights but the bike path is flowing freely.

[–] SolarBoy@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

Also, the driver and passengers still burn calories while just sitting in the car.