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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Atheism 100% caused Zionism. It was 0% religious Judaism 100% Atheism. As you can read the German Jews fully opposed Zionism in its early days.

The most influential ideology for early Zionism was Socialism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labor_Zionism

It was mostly by Jabotinsky who pushed Zionist Revisionism as a way to increase the amount of colonists that it turned into the weird incoherent mix of religious and Atheist Jews that you see today. And the Israeli-British pogroms committed around the Middle East to push Jews to go to Israel.

[–] cypherpunks@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Atheism 100% caused Zionism.

What a ridiculous statement. Being founded by an atheist (if Herzl even actually was one - he was clearly non-religious, but many non-religious people are not atheists) is quite different than being caused by atheism.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

That's true my choice of words here was not entirely correct. It should have been "Atheists 100% caused Zionism." That might explain where the confusion comes from.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Gotcha, good to know it's not imperialism and nationalism but atheism that caused zionism. /s