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AI is not bad for the environment in comparison with many other regular activities. (lemmy.world)

submitted 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) by AnonomousWolf@lemmy.world to c/controversial@sh.itjust.works

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People on Lemmy love to cry AI IS BURNING THE PLANNET but have they ever really looked at the numbers?

1 kg Beef = 60kg CO2 - source
1000km Return flight = 314kg CO2 - source
1 Bitcoin transaction = 645kg of CO2 - source
1000 AI prompts = 3kg of CO2 - source including training

I'm a strong advocate for privacy, and I myself am Anti generative AI in many ways, but can we please stop shouting that AI IS BRUNING THE PLANNET, it weakens our position to push back at actual issues with AI like privacy.

Here is a detailed breakdown debunking that AI is destroying the planet: https://andymasley.substack.com/p/a-cheat-sheet-for-conversations-about

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[–] balsoft@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 days ago

Check the sources, that does account for training.

The 3Wh figure is pretty much "pulled out of the ass". Looking at other sources listed, it does seem true that similar-sized models use ~2-3Wh per query, amortized training included. So yeah I concede the point.