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Racist because of one parody image of Xi the Pooh that was clearly not even aimed at Asians in general? Jesus you guys are a bunch of snowflakes. And that's coming from an Asian/Taiwanese myself. We don't need your self imposed superiority to feel sorry for us. We know what's racist and what's not. Thank you.
They are just larpers that like the whole USSR/CCP asthetic,my advice is to not engage them since they will just piss you of and no valuable conversation is gonna come out from it.
I really don't understand how you could conclude that it was an aesthetic interest
I am literally an anarchist who has also done more praxis than most of your instance combined.
Anarchists in a community of Russia and chinese apologists. You're either stupid or a troll
Yeah, that time could be spent celebrating worthless morons like Makhno instead of working with people with whom you have common class interests.
Yeah i bet theyd be much better off in the other Online Anarchist Spaces, where they have contests to see who can hold the least anarchist value and still call themself one, more time is spent fighting Twitter Stalinists and overseas bureaucrats than asking for clean water for minorities in their own country, and any given user could randomly be a toddler or a DHS sockpuppet. So fun, safe, and productive.
lol what kinda anarchist chums around with MLs.
One who isn't a moronic splitter and understands that the imperial core is their actual enemy
As an anarchist: like all anarchists (in the English speaking West) do this, anarchism is a small movement.
At the same time, i just spent a bunch of time arguing with a pair of Hexbear accounts that are probably Russian state media so uh... yeesh.
I'd stay clear from hard line MLs as an anarchist lol.
People who realize we have more problems than minor theoretical differences? Nakoichi is an actual organizer who works with indigenous people and that deserves respect if you're any kind of leftist
you need to read more theory then
point at the theory that says I shouldn't try to work with every possible leftist in my area. I live in Texas. There aren't enough of us to go around already and we don't need to start splitting ourselves over irrelevant shit like the Spanish Civil War.
Give me a title for this one, maybe a more specific citation if it's part of s book
You can paint the president of the world's largest asian country yellow and I I'll tell you it's fine
pick me
You can depict the current leading party in Taiwan as maggots and I could also tell you it's fine. In fact, people here already do. The CCP just so happens to be that sensitive about a fucking yellow cartoon bear. Hilarious I know. If they someday be also sensitive about a pink alien and we make fun of it, are you going to tell me it's racist against aliens?
Lol stupid black people upset about wide lipstick. It's just fucking lipstick and face paint. Hilarious I know.
I just came up with this rhetorical strategy of flattening the context of an offensive act so as to present it as being non offensive! I don't know where I got the idea but I sure do feel like I could win an online debate with it.
FYI, that meme originated from Chinese social media. If that meme was supposed to be racist, you're essentially saying that Asian people somehow offends other Asians about their skin color being yellow, despite themselves being the same ethnicity.
You see the problem here?
You must be very slow witted to have your "I can't be racist because I'm Asian" argument dismissed so many times now and still drop it like it's a conversation stopper.
I don't care if it was created in a Wuhan lab. I care how it's deployed. And it doesn't get turned into the west's go to propaganda poster portrait without filling the role of yellow scare racism. It and your juvenile 'cee cee pee' shit has a clear purpose that you're just too much of a troll to speak plainly about.
And you must be very slow witted to get that Asians here were never insulted because of the meme (except China since they love their leader so much). The meme was never the problem.
If you actually cared about Asians, you would have researched in Asian social media or asked Asian people how they think about the picture, and how it relates to racism if any. Racism is a problem in the US yes, but I absolutely do not believe that a meme has that much to do with the core problem with it. Take out the meme, and they would come up with another excuse like COVID to legitimize it in no time. They would happily rally around Trump and spout their racism and fuck China shit because there's another enabler.
Old mate here's drank too much "I'm one of the cool ones" juice
From what I see, Hexbears feeling the need to judge others for matters that aren't about themselves, and also don't bother to listen to the people who they think are affected, are the ones who drank the coolaid.
We're not talking coolaid here. We're talking that the white man is never going to respect anyone who sells out. "I'm one of the cool ones" is the companion piece to a white guy's "I have a black friend".
It may feel cool to shit on mainlanders and call President Xi 'Xinnie the Pooh', but all that slinging that shit around online really does is validate the very real and very racist swathes of the West who don't discern a difference between people in Asia, or think that what's acceptable to apply to a prominent Asian figure is acceptable to apply to all Asians.
Case in point is Uncle Roger, who's a Malaysian Chinese, but makes the same kind of XJP jokes that you see on Reddit. Didn't stop him from getting smacked in the face by a racist dog on the streets of London.
I also see US political comics depicting prominent figures of the US as animals, devils, etc. It's a thing they do. Xi the Pooh isn't something new they came up with, so I think that the picture in question has little to do with deep running racism.
What Uncle Roger went through is sad, but whether it's because of COVID or the picture, they're all just excuses imo. Take one out, and they'll find another as their excuse.