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Meanwhile On Grad
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Is it surprising to you that a socialist party would have socialism as a goal?
No, but I am surprised that a communist party with a communist ideology has socialism as its goal instead of communism. Aren't you?
Communism is a form of socialism. There’s plenty of information out there free of charge. It wouldn’t hurt to educate yourself before holding strong opinions on a topic.
Edit: Communism is the end game for socialism, much like fascism is end game for liberalism.
It’s the next stage. The big feature: classless, money-less society.
Fascism is the endgame for liberalism? lmao what? How?
Well, it may not be desirable, but it’s what it becomes. Maybe a poor example. Liberalism always leads to fascism.
You haven't said how though.
Have yourself a read
Liberalism is a rightwing ideology that is always exploited by the privileged. That article will help get you up to speed.
This guy is an ignorant perfectionist, and he's not convincing by quoting a bunch of random political theorists. Every single nation in the world has engaged in some level of imperialism, whether it's using slave labour (which he uses as an argument) or a history of colonisation. Need I remind you that most products are made out of what's essentially slave labour, which comes from China
Just because a nation's history is that of a coloniser doesn't make it impossible to be a Western democracy. His argument falls apart when you look at the current parliament, which is the most diverse in the United Kingdom's history -- Only in Western Democracies can you have this level of diversity and equality.
Despite the above, he also calls Western nations white supremacist states. This guy's a nutter. Liberalism isn't right-wing.
Western democracy is built around colonization and exploitation. If I get time later I’ll come up with a rebuttal, but long story short is that your western sources can’t be trusted. You’re grabbing info from the terrorists to use as proof. It doesn’t make any sense.
If your definition is the above opinion piece then every nation in the world is also built around colonisation and exploitation. I also like how you just ignored everything I said.
Reuters can't be trusted to report on how diverse the UK parliament is? Goodness, the disillusion.
I didn’t ignore, I’m starting my day. I’ll chat more later. I like this much more than you’re one word questions. ;)
I see by your edit that you went and educated yourself.
No, just gave you an example. I’m a big fan of socialism.
I'm not trying to defend china, but most communists see socialism as a necessary stage in the path to communism.
Oui, but this user states that socialism is the goal while being both wrong and on your nose about it
Socialism as a goal, with the eventual goal of reaching communism?
I don't think they'd actually do that, but that;s what he meant.