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[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The piece on using the tech is a bit much. We cannot get by without a smartphone in modern life and they essentially do not exist outside of apple and google.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Sure they do, but all of the alternatives are not nearly as convenient. But you can absolutely get by without an iPhone or Android phone with Play services.

The example actually proves the point more strongly than LibreOffice vs MS Office does by the increased level of effort it requires of the user to go out of their way to not actively support the bad things Apple and Google do.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ok show me a phone that is readily available that has the ability to log into banking apps etc.

[–] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Are you being dense on purpose? I said you could absolutely do it, but it was far more inconvenient.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 0 points 18 hours ago

So you repkied to me qualifying that it is an effective duopoly by saying that there are other companies which is what is implied in what I said?

Who is dense when you can't understand the practicalities of real life and how business interact with our lives. You can get a linux phone, which is probably below .5% of market share and then sandbox android to use these apps...which is in itself necessitating the use of a google product.

I could walk into the bank also or not talk to people but effectively there are two manufacturers with a duopoly on consumer mobile communications enviromments.

"There are ways" is some cop out bullshit.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 days ago

Sure they do, but all of the alternatives are not nearly as convenient. But you can absolutely get by without an iPhone or Android phone with Play services.

Effectively, for most people, they don't.

Most people make a new phone purchase impulsively when involved with negotiating a phone plan at a store or in a rush after they break their old phone and need a new one for life and work almost immediately, the cost benefit analysis for most people simply doesn't make sense unless they are naturally interested in tech as a hobby or it is related to their career (or are surrounded by friendly people who are).

[–] sibachian@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

afaik our digital identification system does not work well outside of iOS or Android (most of the time, not at all - since it breaks on updates and they update basically daily). so we're stuck with their duopoly. because digital id is mandatory.

Once upon a time they did support linux on desktop but then ubuntu went and decided to make a phone and linux support was mysteriously discontinued a week after.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

our digital identification system

which one?