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I've seen a few articles saying that instead of hating AI, the real quiet programmers young and old are loving it and have a renewed sense of purpose coding with llm helpers (this article was also hating on ed zitiron, which makes sense why it would).

Is this total bullshit? I have to admit, even though it makes me ill, I've used llms a few times to help me learn simple code syntax quickly (im and absolute noob who's wanted my whole life to learn code but cant grasp it very well). But yes, a lot of time its wrong.

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[โ€“] Kissaki@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I've been using phind as a technical-focused AI search engine, which is a great addition to my toolset.

I'm mindful of using it vs searching [ref docs etc], not only in the kind of search and answer I'm looking for but also energy consumption impact, but it's definitely very useful. I'm a senior dev though, and know what to expect and I am able to assess plausibility, and phind provides sources I can inspect too.

As for code assistance, I find it plausible that it can be useful, even if from my personal experience I'm skeptical.

I watched an Microsoft talk from two devs, which was technically sound and plausible in that it was not just marketing but they talked about their experience, including limits of AI, and where they had to and to what degree they had to deal with hallucinations and cleanup. They talked about where they see usefulness in AI. They were both senior, and able to assess plausibility, and do corrections where necessary. What I remember; they used it to bounce ideas back and forth, to do an implementation draft they then go over and complete, etc.

Microsoft can do the investment of AI setup, code sharing to model, AI instructions/meta-description setup investment, etc.

My personal experience was in using copilot for Rust code, for Nushell plugins. I'm not very familiar with Rust, and it was very confusing, and with a lot of hallucinations.

The PR descriptions CodeRabbit did were verbose and not useful for smaller PRs I made. That has been a while ago.

At work we have a voluntary work group exploring AI. The whole generate your whole app kind of thing seems plausible for UI prototypes. But nothing more. And for that it's probably expensive.

I'm not sure how much the whole thing does or can do for efficiency. Seems situational - in terms of environment, setup, capabilities, and kind of work and approach.

[โ€“] Jayjader@jlai.lu 2 points 1 day ago

Phind has been decent for me when I'm looking for prior art and/or research papers on something I'm trying to develop/implement. It's nice to be able to pose a question as I would to a colleague and get references back that I can read for myself.

Sadly, it still hallucinates some stuff, and when it doesn't it tends to give me references that are tangentially related to my query but don't actually cover it.