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[–] protist@mander.xyz 25 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Remember when we were on track to normalize relations with Iran and Cuba?

And I really gotta disagree with the first guy that Putin invading Crimea was in any way Obama's responsibility

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

normalize relations with Iran

Back when Israel wasnt killing 100+ people a day in Gaza? Fucking easy job that was back then yeah. Dont get me wrong, Trump and Biden were probably worse than Obama, but that doesnt make Obama a good diplomat. If you always hold your politicians to the standard of the likes of Trump, then the world is fucking doomed.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Fucking easy job that was back then yeah.

Were you a child during the Obama Administration? I ask because you clearly don't remember. You can repeat over and over "Obama wasn't a good diplomat," but that doesn't make it true.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I remember the civilian death count that he left behind. You can simp for him all you want, but that doesnt make him any less of a war criminal.