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EDIT: no, I don't sympathize with nazis (neither I sympathize with those who call everyone nazi when they're losing an argument ;)

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[-] Mouette@jlai.lu 47 points 1 year ago

If the 'thing you dont agree' with is hate speech or shit promotting violence for example that's the only sane option you have lol

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Find me one neoliberal who isn't promoting violence.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 year ago

Here's a comment thread where a Hexbear user said "I hope to kill people like you" because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

Going on any Hexbear instance people froth over telling anyone right of Karl Marx to "get up against the wall". You guys are, and will always be, a joke.

[-] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

If course you would, like a good little authoritarian.

In my ideal society I’d give people like you the freedom you deserve.

This you?

[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

You said you supported Social Democracy not Democratic Socialism. Dem Socs are well-meaning but idealistic, not optimistic but the political philosophy of idealism. Soc Dems are supporters of a kinder capitalism for the Imperial core but keeping the child slaves mining cobalt in the Congo.

The fact that you think these are the same proves the original posters point that you should read theory. They were harsh but you were implying that keeping exploitation of the third world is preferable to socialism.

Dude you still don’t stop worker exploitation, don’t solve the contradiction of working and capitalist classes, don’t end imperialism or colonialism (social democracy outsources exploitation to the third world)

Ok let me know how your method works out

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

You said you supported Social Democracy not Democratic Socialism.

What a terrible mistake to make! Perhaps you should have assumed it was the correct orientation of the two words that are spelled exactly the same.

The fact that you think these are the same proves the original posters point that you should read theory.

I have, but thanks for the suggestion.

[-] Annakah69@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

The abolishinists were mean to me. : 😭😭

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[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Assuming people are using words in the way they are widely and commonly accepted to mean (I mean, just look at Wikipedia for an easy starting point) is not a bad thing?

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[-] uralsolo@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

two words that are spelled exactly the same

Social and Socialism are not spelled the same, neither are Democracy and Democratic.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago

What incredible insight. The word 'social' is referring to 'socialism' and so is the relation between 'democracy' and 'democratic'.

It would take an idiot to mix these up, right?

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[-] AlpineSteakHouse@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

What a terrible mistake to make! Perhaps you should have assumed it was the correct orientation of the two words that are spelled exactly the same.

Your beef is with the English Language not me. How is it my fault that you misidentified yourself? Funnily enough, you still don't identify your actual political position. It's clear that the only political position you'd take is what gives you an advantage in the argument. Fucking debatebros lol.

I have, but thanks for the suggestion.

Reading so much theory that you confuse two different political ideologies. Sometimes I read so much theory that that I claim to be a monarchist when I really mean to say I'm an anti-monarchist. Obviously the other person should have understood what I meant. Your literally on a communication medium that allows you to plan and edit your comments. You have no excuse for making this grade school mistake.

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[-] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Haha, classic Catradora_Stalinism, what a rascal.

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[-] Mindfury@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

because I simply said I supported democratic socialism.

so you promoted violence first?
i'm failing to see your complaint here

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 year ago
[-] uralsolo@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

I simply said I supported democratic socialism

So you said that you support the regime of extreme global inequality against the third world in order to maintain treats in the first.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

I support what are realistic policies actually will push the status quo in the direction you want.

Larping on the internet waiting for a revolution to occur seems like a nice fantasy.

[-] uralsolo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

IDK what country you're from, but in America at least, a democratic socialist has about as much likelihood of being elected to any given office as a communist does, so if you're looking for "realistic" policies you should look elsewhere.

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[-] letsgocrazy@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

So socialism, if it has any degree of democracy to it, which is kind of essential to socialism, is evil in your eyes.

What version of decision making is acceptable in socialism then?

Just one party rule?

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[-] Aria@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Extreme violence is still violence. Industrial violence on a massive scale is still violence. You are advocating for violence, terrible violence, and then getting upset someone else advocated for comparatively mild violence.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

Yes. Tolerance should not extend to intolerance, and intolerance should never be a thing we tolerate.

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