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[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Lol

You are the odd one out.

You are the very problem you describe and project.

Other online communities, especially European ones, understand this delineation.

Colloquial use vs jargon has been discussed.

Cultural is affected by the people in the culture. Communities by the people in the community.

Am I claiming this?

The line between liberalism and leftism

Gee look, I was NOT claiming that. You said people have to be either/or - never said that. Learn to read.

Again, just because you can compare similarities, does not erase the contrasts/differences. We all learned to compare and contrast in middle school. Just because apples and oranges are both round and fruits, does not mean we should make apples and oranges mean the same thing or be the same word.

Please read The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal Order before responding again. It literally explains why liberals should be considered rightwing. That you don't understand is a you thing. Again, by your own claims, everyone else on Lemmy gets this but you. You are the thing you are complaining about via projection.

https://lemmy.world/post/34460101/18831918

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You are the odd one out.

I'll take major publications linked before (NPR, ProPublica, Gallup, Vox, etc) over Lemmy as less biased representations of conventions & conventional language.

European ones, understand this delineation

This goes back to regional language differences & (Eurocentric) bias.

Cultural is affected by the people in the culture. Communities by the people in the community.

Not the same as a language community: no such thing as Lemmy English. This is still a discussion site of people from various regional language communities.

The line between liberalism and leftism

Gee look, I was NOT claiming that.

liberals should be considered rightwing

Now you're being obtuse & contradictory. Here it is a few more times.

line between liberalism and leftism

line between

line

as if you can draw a line between them in a Venn diagram indicating no overlap.

It's like talking about "the line" between color & shape: they're just independent concepts, there is no line.

Learn to read.

Did it & read it back to you: own up to your own words.

We all learned to compare and contrast in middle school. Just because apples and oranges are both round and fruits, does not mean we should make apples and oranges mean the same thing or be the same word.

I'm sorry this concept of regional language variations is so hard for you. Also, that logic or the idea of conjunction is too hard for you: liberal & left shouldn't be a hard concept, nor that left is usually understood with the word liberal in North America, nor that it's plainly observable in major publications shown to you.

Do you have as much trouble understanding something can have both color & shape and there is no "line" between them?

Please read The Rise and Fall of the Neoliberal Order before responding again. It literally explains why liberals should be considered rightwing.

As was presented multiple times with basic logic, liberal can be left & doesn't imply right-wing (or left-wing). It takes bias & motivated reasoning to disregard the obvious.

Reading an argument that contradicts logic would be like reading an argument that true is false or 1+1=3. We could, but anyone with a basic grasp of logic already knows the claim has been refuted—no valid argument undoes that.

When your belief conflicts with logic & evidence, the reasonable course is to update belief. I suspect your thinking is too ideological to do that.

[–] LustyArgonianMana@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Okay, I accept you won't see eye to eye with me and have an obvious commitment to lying and misunderstanding. I and the rest of the Lemmy community will continue to use liberal and leftist this way. I think you are projecting a lot, to various boring and comedic effect.