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If you look at earlier 19th and early 20th century conservatives, they absolutely make pretty good points.
More than a few social safety systems world wide were instituted by conservatives, under the thinking that people are fucking shit to eachother and thus it falls to institutions to take care of basic needs. A famous example is the German welfare state created by Bismarck.
A lot of natural beauty has been protected by conservatives, because they used to believe in actually conserving things.
Conservatives of the past have done a LOT of good in preventing and reversing government overreach in personal liberties.
I could have absolutely had a great discussion with a conservative from 1925. We would have some major disagreements, but more than a few similarities. And a modern conservative would loathe everything about that same past conservative.
Bismarck only enacted those welfare laws to take the wind out of the sails of leftist labourer movements