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[–] Vakbrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (2 children)

As opposed to what your comment implies, the drivetrain (EV or ICE) has nothing to do with cars spying on you. You should not blame the technology itself because shady car companies spying on your internet connected car. Most of them are well known ICE car brands that do the spying (GM, Volkswagen for instance)

Yes, most new ICE cars are Internet connected now, not just EVs.

Blame those greedy corporations, not the technology.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

exactly, data collection is an issue with new cars in general. It's not a reason to buy a new ICE car instead of a new EV.

[–] atrielienz@lemmy.world 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It is a reason to not buy a new car which means people who aren't buying new cars won't be buying EV's.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

They won't be buying new cars in the near future, but their cars will be wearing out and spare parts for old cars always become hard to find. Either they will be spending a large part of their time maintaining the car, including making parts from scratch, or they will forced to buy a new car anyway.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Our 10 year-old Highlander still drives like new. It's our newest vehicle, and one of Toyota's last generation of vehicles without a cellular connection.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 1 points 22 minutes ago

The average car is 12 years old. Car makers start to drop support (making/stocking parts) when the car is about 10 years old. Come back and talk to me about that car when is is 25 years old and tell me how it is. I have a 26 year old truck, the bed has holes, the frame is showing signs of rot - I'm trying to decide if it is worth trying to rebuild the transmission, my mechanic isn't intersted in part because they are not sure if they can find the parts - they will be more than $1000 in labor in before they know wihch bearing it has and thus can check if it can be had.

[–] entropicdrift@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 7 hours ago

You could always pick up a 9-year-old Bolt

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 2 points 16 hours ago

As a matter of fact, ICE cars were connected to the internet way before the first EV was connected to the internet.