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[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -4 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

No. The Holocaust (a proper noun) refers to a specific genocide.

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 10 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

You are incorrectly conflating two different things:

The word holocaust existed in the English language prior to the 1930s, and was only later appropriated into the proper noun you reference to describe the Nazi’s systematic persecution and extermination of Jews, Poles, Romani and other ‘undesirable’ minority groups.

It derives from the Ancient Greek words "whole" (holos) & "burnt" (kaustos); and was used to describe large-scale destruction, either literally by fire, or figuratively as a descriptor for widespread ruin.

I used it intentionally to draw the attention to the similarities between the crimes that Israel are now perpetrating on the Palestinian people, to those perpetrated on Jews by Nazi Germany in the 30s & 40s.

Modern day Israel does not have exclusive rights to the term, nor the ability to use it as a bulwark against criticism for their current barbarism.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world -3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

and was only later appropriated into the proper noun you reference to describe the Nazi’s systematic persecution and extermination of Jews, Poles, Romani and other ‘undesirable’ minority groups.

Yes, that’s my point.

After 1930 it became a proper noun. We’re not speaking Ancient Greek and it’s after the 1930s.

I see Lemmy is filling up with people (not you, the downvote brigade that exists around politically charged topics) who conflate disagreement about minor issues with being on the other side of the argument. Nuance isn’t Ancient Greek either, but you’d think it was given the way people react on social media.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago

Other meanings don't magically get removed when a term is used to describe a realatively new event.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I guess it will have to be appropriated again to also describe the Palestinian holocaust. Their plight is even worse than the Jews IMO, because their whole country became the concentration and extermination camp. They deserve it more.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

Same savage methods was used