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INFO!!! fairphone DOES SUPPORT CUSTOM ROMS!!!

i like the idea of a fairphone. i dun wana buy one tho - if it doesn hav the features i need/wan.

if fairphone had all dis stuff - it would hav a genuine moat, besides the sustainability stff-

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[–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 32 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I feel like most of these are at least misleading if not outright false (or maybe I'm misunderstanding them, so please correct me if I do).

  • Allow custom ROMs: It does, and there is even a Google-free variant they sell on their store.
  • Dual SIM and SD card slot: There may not be dual slots, but there is Dual SIM (one physical, one eSIM), and I'm not sure I've ever seen a phone with multiple SD card slots.
  • Programmable "moments" button: The button is not programmable per se, but there are different settings to make it do different things.
  • No dumb accessories: If you don't find them useful, don't buy them?
  • Headphone jack: Fair enough, I do miss that one, but the USB-C with an adapter works okay, and I'm still using the same headphones that I've used for years.
[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Headphone jack: Fair enough, I do miss that one, but the USB-C with an adapter works okay, and I'm still using the same headphones that I've used for years.

I do this as well, but I would also like to charge the phone while I have my headphones connected to it, and all these additional adapter chains often don't work very reliable, and are much more cumbersome to deal with.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Dual SIM and SD card slot: There may not be dual slots, but there is Dual SIM (one physical, one eSIM), and I’m not sure I’ve ever seen a phone with multiple SD card slots.

Still, I prefer 2 physical slots. Some phones also have Dual SIM + eSIM, where 2 of them can be active at a time.
My current phone has Dual SIM + SD. I have all three populated, on of them with 9esim adapter. Removable eSIM. Easy to replace, and stores multiple profiles.

As for the second thing: https://www.androidheadlines.com/2016/01/hands-on-with-the-saygus-v2-smartphone.html

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I currently have four eSIMs on my phone. I would love nothing more than to get rid of the last remaining physical SIM.

Ideally, also get rid of the whole slot to improve water resistance.

I would MUCH rather they focus on optimisation and power efficiency. My work iPhone can easily last two days on a single charge, three if I'm not really using it that much, all the while giving me all the processing power I'd need to run high-quality games on it. No Android phones comes anywhere near this and it grinds my gears.

All I'm saying is: different people, different needs.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I currently have 6 eSIMs, but on a removable eUICC. If the phone breaks, I can immediately put it into another phone and use it. Mine even has STK menu for switching and renaming profiles, so it also works in most dumb phones.

Plus all that is free. In my country, eSIM profile download codes are single use, and you pay for them. Swan is €8, O2 €10, Orange €10, only Telekom does it for free.
But yeah, in my case, that could easily mean having to pay upwards of €60 just to put the fucking SIM cards into another phone.

Oh, fun fact, I wanted to try one plan at Orange, but screw it. The physical SIM is free, including shipping to home, but for eSIM they wanted €10.25 (while the plan would be €20/mo), and I don't have empty slots for them.

Meh, average carrier shenanigans. Ereyesterday I wrote to my carrier about being unable to make phone calls, they replied me to call them to "continue the case" after unsuccessfully (who could have guessed) trying to call me. Bro...
At least somebody probably understood what just happened, so they emailed me.

Well, guess your last sentence works.

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

I currently have 6 eSIMs, but on a removable eUICC.

Are you able to have two of them enabled at the same time, or is there a limit to one, since it treats it like a SIM card?

Plus all that is free. In my country, eSIM profile download codes are single use, and you pay for them. Swan is €8, O2 €10 (...) The physical SIM is free, including shipping to home, but for eSIM they wanted €10.25

Wow, that's insane!

I wrote to my carrier about being unable to make phone calls, they replied me to call them to “continue the case” after unsuccessfully (who could have guessed) trying to call me. Bro…

Was that LycaMobile?

At least somebody probably understood what just happened, so they emailed me.

Ah, never mind, not Lyca after all. These fuckers close FOUR CASES that I raised after failing to contact me, when I was reporting not being able to take calls.

I currently have 6 eSIMs, but on a removable eUICC.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 3 weeks ago

Are you able to have two of them enabled at the same time, or is there a limit to one, since it treats it like a SIM card?

Yeah, just one at a time.

But maybe it could work on some devices, though I am not sure if with this adapter, since it has that extra STK menu, so it may work differently.

Really, the same eUICC chip that would normally be soldered into a phone can be soldered onto SC contact pads and used like that too: https://xdaforums.com/t/a-tricky-way-to-use-esim-on-cn-in-variant.4609543/
Difference is, this will require root to be used on most devices, since the chip doesn't explicitly allow the respective apps to manage it.

However, there's some mentions that some devices may actually just recognize it as an eSIM even in settings, which is also mentioned here: https://osmocom.org/projects/pysim/wiki/UE_behavior_with_plastic_eUICC

Rumour is that some UEs will treat such an external eUICC just like an internal one, i.e. their normal LPAd would be able to manage and/or download eSIM profiles to it.

However, there may also be some issues with this. I've seen quite a few reports of these cards bricking Samsung devices, requiring a factory reset. And the linked article also mentions persisting issues after using the internal SIM manager on Pixel 4a 5G.
What happens on Samsungs is that they suddenly won't show an IMEI and they won't recognize any SIM card.

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

dual sim slot phones were very common in some markets where you needed to have multiple carriers. It's a lot less common now that eSIM exists, but before then it was a common thing for the EU version of a phone to have dual sim slots when the NA versions were only single sim.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 weeks ago

It still is pretty common, but they typically do hybrid slots, so either a SIM or SD card.

[–] Smorty@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

ur right bout the first two... i updated the posts content becuz of it (som hours ago)

but the accessories - see - i like the idea, bzt sadly they opted for a screw-on desgin... which then made the phone have two black screws on the back, in places where ur fingers would be.... whivh spawns a big uncomfy feeling in me - so its mostly a personal thing-

but yes, ur points r very valid n i agree.

[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

How did you hold one in your hands?? Is there a fair phone store?

[–] Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

Possibly held a friend's phone.