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Don't you understand? """"Peace""""" is worth any price. You have to stop the fighting!!! Even if that means you have to give up any thoughts of ruling yourselves or any self respect that the people might have. Just swallow up all those feelings of loss and grief for the dead, they died for nothing. Now we get to lose territory because John Richard over here thinks that being able to defend yourself would hurt putins fee fees.
Oh well.
You're assuming a lot about me. Like I said, if you want to keep the war going by all means go ahead. I think it is abhorrent what Putin has done.
I can also think it is abhorrent what the US has been doing since the 1950s. For example, the so called "weapons of mass destruction" program that was actually discontinued, was about biological weapons that America had helped supply & fund for Saddam Hussein to engage in proxy wars against the Soviet Russia at the time.
The US funded terrorists in the 80s as part of Operation Cyclone to engage in a proxy war, which many of the fighters it helped train later became Al-Qaeda & fighters for Osama Bin Laden .
Ukraine is not going to defeat a world power with the largest nuclear arsenal by itself. Sanctions with Russia haven't worked. About the only thing that would actually end the war & reclaim the land is for the US & other powers to take on Russia themself, risking a major nuclear escalation. If you think the proxy war is merely about protecting Ukrainians, you're wrong.