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Ontario couple whose teenage son died after 8-hour wait in ER calls for law reform (www.cbc.ca)

submitted 5 days ago by Davriellelouna@lemmy.world to c/ontario@lemmy.ca

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[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

They're also calling on the province to enact what they've proposed as "Finlay's Law" — legislation that would set maximum emergency room wait times

AMAZING. This is obviously needed.

... for children

Oh fuck off.

[–] vithigar@lemmy.ca 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

This is obviously needed

Shorter wait times are needed, yes, but a law imposing an arbitrary maximum isn't going to help. Unless you have more and better supported healthcare providers (doctors, nurses, technicians, the entire chain) all that imposing a maximum wait will do is reduce quality of care as people are rushed through or turned away.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I mean I think that is obviously implied. Supposing that people will be rejected from ER so they can maintain their minimum wait time is a wild take.

imposing an arbitrary maximum isn’t going to help

Okay, so don't make them arbitrary. Make them the longest a person with a benchmark issue can safely wait.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Supposing that people will be rejected from ER so they can maintain their minimum wait time is a wild take.

This is already happening, sort of.

When ER rooms are too busy, they refuse intake from ambulances. Meaning the patient stays in the ambulance or in the wait room but under the supervision of the ambulance paramedics, not the hospital... this of course results is even longer wait times, subpar care, and fewer ambulances to deal with emergencies out there

Keep voting Doug Ford Ontario... he'll get to this as soon as the bicycle lanes are gone, that's an obvious priority

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

What if we say that provincial politicians salaries are garnished after the wait time is exceeded?

I think we could also do that for senior hospital administrators who lack a front-line medical background.

[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 days ago

Yeah

The other thing I didn’t like was when they said Finlay “gave up” and he was hypoxic.

Hypoxia causes drowsiness, fatigue, disorientation.

I don’t think it’s fair to say he “gave up”.

He should have been seen earlier, but we all deserve shorter hospital wait times.