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    ...and it went very smoothly. I installed on a spare PC for now, but I could absolutely see this becoming my daily driver. I'm mostly surprised at how snappy and responsive it is, even on 10 year old hardware!

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    [–] jaschen306@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    You guys are living in a bubble.

    I keep trying and trying. The UX isn't great.

    Pinch to zoom is non-existent. Scrolling on a trackpad , the systememulates a mouse and isn't smooth when you scroll. Scrolling in browsers vs in file systems is totally a different experience.

    Forget about scrolling in the browser using the touch screen. It emulates a left mouse click hold. No, that is not what is expected when I'm browsing a web page and put my finger on the screen. I expect it to respond like how my phone browser responds. Never once have I ever needed to left mouse hold when I swipe a browser screen.

    The list goes on. From a convoluted navigation in the menu and a need to install apps using terminal.

    I keep trying and trying. But if you can't convince a tech forward person like myself, how will you convince a normie?

    I haven't tried all the distros. But I shouldn't have too. These UX systems should be standard across all distros.

    [–] Wolf@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

    These UX systems should be standard across all distros.

    Anyone who expects Linux to be like MacOS where you basically only have 1 way to do anything- is going to be frustrated. The thing that you find annoying about Linux is the thing Linux users love about it.

    The great thing about Linux is that almost nothing is guaranteed to be "standard across all distros". Different people have different use cases, needs, and preferences. If you take the time to figure out how to make Linux look and behave the way you want it to, it's has all the advantages of MacOS, but it's even better because you can fine tune everything to be exactly how you like it and not be stuck with whatever they give you.

    I guarantee there is a way to get the exact functionality you are looking for in any Linux distro, in fact there are probably a half a dozen different ways or more to accomplish it, but it's more than likely a couple of toggles in the settings menu.

    a need to install apps using terminal.

    I installed Pop!_OS on my PC over a year ago and I haven't needed to open up a terminal window to do anything the entire time. I did install a newer version of the app store, but even that I did by using the old app store. I do open my terminal sometimes because I love learning different ways of doing things and understanding how my OS works, but it is by no means mandatory.

    It's not the nightmare you describe but it might take a little adjusting to, just like with anything else. There are also many different distro's from very beginner friendly to building a custom OS from scratch. As long a you have the time and patience to do a little research, you could find a distro that would be perfect for your needs- or at the very least one that could be with minimal tweaking.

    One mistake I see some people make is not starting out with a beginner friendly distro. They think they are too advanced for that so they go for something designed for people with more experience. There is nothing at all wrong with going with a 'beginner' distro. You can do anything you want to do on any distro if you know what you are doing.

    It's not for everyone, some people don't care about customization or learning anything new or free and open source software, and that's fine. For everyone else there's *nix.

    [–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

    The list goes on

    To be fair, most of your issues seem to be with touch screen interaction. Something most Linux users could not really care less about.

    The other things, like menu navigation or needing to install a terminal app, aren't issues I have ever experienced.

    [–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 0 points 1 week ago

    There is some laptop hardware that isnt well supported, it is annoying but it is what it is people are writing drivers for a lot of stuff but it doesnt compare to having manufacturers actually support their hardware.

    As for convoluted menu and installing apps via terminal thats user error. Linux is for those that are willing to learn and if people cant use an app store and get frustrated when they see a different menu they're beyond reach.