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Not relevant to trump, but: it is ironic that we (the US) haven't fought a genuinely defensive war since 1812, and we only managed a draw in that one (which included our capital being burned to the ground and our greatest victory coming after it was technically over) because our opponent was busy fighting a bunch of cheese-eating surrender monkeys (and only winning because the fucking Germans helped out).
Edit: it's hard to imagine somebody using the expression "cheese-eating surrender monkeys" and being serious about it, but I guess some people can imagine that.
WW2 was a defensive war?
In the sense of genuinely defending our own country from invasion or destruction? Definitely not. Hawaii wasn't a state at the time and the Japanese never had plans to invade it anyway.
I feel offended and lauded at the same time
I assume you mean the French?
You do know they're the most successful military in human history right?
That's the joke
I don't think it is but sure, hilarious.
It’s an old Simpsons quote. It was never meant to be any more than a one-off line, as far as I can tell.
The term gained political traction in the US, especially in right-wing circles, when Jonah Goldberg, a columnist for the National Review magazine, used it in the title of an April 1999 column on the "Top Ten Reasons to Hate the French".[11] In the run up to and during the Iraq War, Goldberg reprised it to criticize European nations and France in particular for not joining the Coalition of the Willing, the United States-led invasion and occupation of Iraq.[2]
You should read what you link, it's right wing adjacent because right wingers ruin everything fun with a disturbing lack of nuance.
Of course others have taken it to express hatred. But it wasn't originally meant to be used in that way by the writer, and that's the point I intended to make. I'm not arguing whether it's right or wrong, I just noticed that its origin hadn't been mentioned yet and figured it was worth mentioning.
The entire point of the joke is that we're both rude and ignorant and rude out of ignorance.
No it isn't
Speaking as the person who made the joke: yes, it is.
Tell that to Alexander the Second Best!