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Excuse me while I go donate even more money to PieFed

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 186 points 1 day ago (7 children)

PieFed dev here.

The screenshotted post is very misleading. As you'd expect from a hexbearian. It is not a baked-in ban.

Hexbear is mentioned in the PieFed source code, as an initial default value for the defederation list. That list is quite long and includes various instances that have been a source of trolls, CSAM and spam in the past (mostly Mastodon instances). As part of the normal setup process it is assumed that instance admins will review that list and alter it as they see fit. They can change it any time by going to instance.tld/admin/federation.

Do not take anything a hexbearian says at face value.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Thank you for your good work, whats the funding status been like for you lately?

[–] rimu@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago

The per-user donations for PieFed are half that of Lemmy (and the number of users are 5% of Lemmy). More is always welcome.

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

That's exactly what this is, an initial defed list. Even the way they present this is disingenous as fuck, calling it a "one way federation, silencing our voices" or some other weird phrasing, making it sound like some underhanded/hidden hardcoded piece just for them, when it's just a boring-ass defederation with one instance among many others. How difficult is it to say "piefed software defederates hexbear by default"? Everyone knows what that fucking means!

I honestly don't understand why everything has to be taken so goddamn uncharitably by the regulars on that instance. It blows my mind how they manage to always act in bad faith. Always.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

I honestly don't understand why everything has to be taken so goddamn uncharitably by the regulars on that instance. It blows my mind how they manage to always act in bad faith. Always.

It's pretty straightforward, imo, they built a feedback loop into their instance culture that encouraged social dopamine junkies to participate in toxic behaviors, valuing things like "dunking", othering, and dehumanizing the out group (non-hexies) over things like factuality, good faith, and not being dicks.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but this also wouldn't mean "one way federation" right? There would just be no synching at all.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I'm not sure what they mean by that. But v1.2, to be released very soon, has strengthened the effectiveness of defederation so pretty soon hexbear will see even less PieFed content. They'll twist that into something bad too.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

They defederated now anyway

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 points 11 hours ago

I assume if you are on instance A and post something on instance B, your instance doesn't federate with hexbear but instance B does, then you will not see the comments from the hexbear user through your instance? Not certain if that is how it works or not though.

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 26 points 1 day ago

Thank you for jumping in.

[–] Master@sh.itjust.works 0 points 12 hours ago

Maybe you should bake it in then. Maybe you are not going far enough...