MeanwhileOnGrad
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Meanwhile On Grad
Documenting hate speech, conspiracy theories, apologia/revisionism, and general tankie behaviour across the fediverse. Memes are welcome!
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Basic Rules:
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Hate-Speech — You should be familiar with this one already; practically all instances have the same rules on hate speech.
Apologia — (Using the Modern terminology for Apologia) No Defending, Denying, Justifying, Bolstering, or Differentiating authoritarian acts or endeavours, whether be a Pro-CCP viewpoint, Stalinism, Islamic Terrorism or any variation of Tankie Ideology.
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We should calm down attacks on db0 as well as on anti-tankies, it leads to this bs. The db0 user agrees that China is trying to erase their culture by doing bad things to Uyghurs, and just want to disengage, that's something we gotta respect. They never show acceptation of the fallacious .ml comment, on the contrary disengaging shows exasperation from it. It is only a disagreement on terms caused by hesitation on what to deduce between us propaganda and china propaganda, and yet they are treated as the enemy.
Yes genocide denial is bad, but putting them in the same box as .ml is bad too and may be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Really, the only db0 user I've seen actively supporting tankies (such as deleting comments calling out .ml bozos on their bullshit) is Unruffled. Most of that instance is still against them, or so I'd like to believe.
Unruffled is famously very easily ruffled
If they are content with supreme leader davels regularly posting in their community, then they're tankies or content with sharing their spaces with tankies.
Tankie bar
Yeah I remember when Davel and Cowbee were clowned on every time they showed up there. I miss those times.
I fucking hate that davel guy.
Now you have users fleeing from them lol
You've never commented or voted on here before. What are you doing speaking for this community? Account that has been inactive for two months. I wonder what your main account is.
Either way, tankie bar anecdote.
Db0 keeps working with tankies, but what they won’t accept is that if you sit down at a table with nazis, the only thing that’s changed is the number of nazis at the table.
They're tankies until they disavow them.
Seems like you edited to remove the account part, that was a good move, this is my main, the other one was my old one that's still on the phone.
Other than that, you're right to call out the lack of critics from db0 admins/mods and general community towards tankies, but this is still a bad example to my eyes. We cannot blame someone for disengaging, especially a regular user with a good reason.
And especially when Davel is replying to 'This is the tankie talking point, which is wrong' with 'BUT THAT TALKING POINT IS WRONG'