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Goat and PugJesus take on DB0 ADMINS (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Canyon201@lemmy.world to c/fediverselore@lemmy.ca

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Starting with this post:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/44999037

Continues here:

https://sh.itjust.works/post/45035437

More posts discussing the fallout:

Dbzer0 admin claiming Uyghur genocide is 'overblown and misrepresented'

Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because "libs worse", yikes

Banned from meanwhileongrad for "No db0 allowed".

On Dbzer0, 'harassing mods' is when you criticize the top admin of .ml for responding to a Wiki link with a Lemmy search

Does lemmy.ml own db0? db0 denies the Uyghur genocide, begins to backtrack that maybe there are human rights abuses, and then immediately backs off as soon as lemmy.ml admin, Davel, steps in.

Tankie bar, db0, will remove your comments and ban you if you criticise lemmy.ml admin, Davel, for denying the Uyghur genocide

When the tankie bar, db0, is pushed about communists purging peasants, Davels swoops in with dehumanisation. Also, if you bring up the Holodomor then you're a nazi.

Removed false allegations against goat from a post on db0

An anarchist ~~tankie~~ did a write-up of the constant use of 'degenerate' as an insult specifically in the MoG comm

Another anarchist ~~tankie~~ did a write-up of the situation

More links: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52444570

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/329886

https://sh.itjust.works/post/151703/234360

https://sh.itjust.works/comment/338067

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[+] goat@sh.itjust.works -7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'll provide a lot of context later on; I have a busy few days, so I'll be unavailable to engage in fedidrama.

Unlike tankies and apologists, I'll supply full context, with absolutely everything.

tl;dr: Tankie bar.

Summarised version for now:

Db0 users and admins have been continuously defending tankies on my anti-tankie community, !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works. They also host tankies such as Devals, who is a lemmy.ml admin. They also host open antisemites.

Their community, !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com, is good in concept, but in practice ends up being a snark community where they attack the moderator based on political views as opposed to whether or not the user broke the rules. Case in point, the user denied genocide, was temporarily banned, yet their snark community flocked to their defence and engaged in more genocide denialism. Any attempts of explanation and communication was met with ridicule and slander.

They then brigade, calling me, my community and random users nazis and fascists. They say it's because one user, just one, uses 'degenerate' and 'roach' to refer to tankies. I counter, I supply evidence, I explain that tankies also use dehumanising language and as does db0's instance, yet we get banned. So I banned them back.

If we're nazis because one user used the word degenerate and roach, then they're tankies for, you know, defending actual tankies lol

Perhaps this is all just a misunderstanding, perhaps it's a series of coincidences or happenstances. But from my perspective, I got sick of their trolling and called out their hypocrisy.

[–] Blaze@lazysoci.al 13 points 1 week ago

perhaps it’s a series of coincidences or happenstances.

I got sick of their trolling and called out their hypocrisy.

From @unruffled@anarchist.nexus , Saturday 30th August 3:45 PM GMT+02

To be clear, if I haven’t been already, I 100% condemn China’s actions towards the Uyghurs. Is it technically a genocide? Depends what definition you’re working with, but to my mind it meets the definition.

Since then (Saturday 30th August 3:45 PM GMT+02):

https://sh.itjust.works/post/45183748?scrollToComments=true - that post is about a comment removal that got removed in the meantime, since that post is still up, nothing indicates that the decision has been reverted
https://sh.itjust.works/post/45256257/20767674 : in a thread related to a ban on a dbzer0 community, you still bring up genocide denial, while you know that has been contradicted by the comment above:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/45256403 - you misinterpret the use of 'disengage', in this case the user (not mod, not admin) just didn't want to get into a conversation again, assuming they 'obeyed to a supreme leader' (https://sh.itjust.works/post/45256403/20767743) is either bad faith or purposefully twisting facts
https://sh.itjust.works/post/45129833 - you paint dbzer0 as calling everyone they disagree with a nazi, people in the comments explain you why it's incorrect, but you keep arguing that db0 supports genocide denial (https://sh.itjust.works/post/45129833/20735846)

Calling out hypocrisy, based on the posts above, doesn't look the most genuine.

Note about another db0 admin clarification

FYI goat, i downvoted the post you screenshotted because the person, @isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de, made this disgusting comment and got permabanned on LW + here for it. He’s a horrible person, which is why i downvoted his post. Not because of the content.

I am not a tankie, not even hexbear/ml users consider me as such; I’ve also seen other stuff about me being a Soviet apologist (?) Which, no, from using the search feature, I have not it seems. Unless they’re including the time I was being nice to cowbee… ? Either way I personally do not have a positive opinion of the USSR but I really don’t want to get into that here.

I have also had a conversation with cowbee themselves once where I told them I disagree with them with the USSR, China and Ukraine about a week ago, so no, I am not an apologist for the Soviet union.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/21109507