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It’s charming how the news media still calls it a war, even though traditionally a war in two sides fighting.
The Israelis are in a war to preserve their existence against the threat of Palestinians continuing to have children at normal historical rates while Israel itself becomes a glorified retirement home.
The Palestinians are doing irreparable harm to the Jewish People by staying alive and protecting their children with hopes of seeing a future generation survive and thrive. The existence of The Hamas Ideology of not liking Israel must not persist for another generation.
I think insurance companies would agree with you in calling it something else. Police action or maybe the emergency
Are there not two sides fighting? Israel vs Hamas; neither side has surrendered.
I will assume you hasn't been following what is happening. Israel is not killing Hamas, based on their own leaked estimate 80% of those who killed are innocent people. Children in tent getting blown up, as well as sick people in hospitals and christian in church is a good example of why this is not a war. It is a genocide.
That's a different problem, and both statements are true.
There is a war between two entities, Israel and Hamas.
Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
One doesn't negate the other.
There's a third fact: Israel has slowly annexed Palestine ever since it was established
ETA: "it was established" means Israel, just in case it wasn't clear
Throw in the fact that Palestinians had non violent protests for more than a year prior to this "heating up" where people were being gunned down just for holding a flag with no weapons on them.. it wasn't one or two either, it was a lot.
Then look at the attacks on Palestinian homes, villages leading up to October.
Then the people saying they gave Israel the Intel that something was going to happen on October 7th, and Israel's own military members stating they got an unusual order to not patrol that section on that day which had never happened for them before.... And it all starts to look like Israel attacking and expanding their territory, hearing about a counter attack and using it for PR to do a full scale invasion in a way the public would accept outside of Israel.
"According to the UN, between 2006 and October 7, 2023, 5,365 Palestinians were killed and nearly 63,000 injured, and 170 Israelis were killed with more than 4,000 injured in Gaza or Israel proper."
https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/2023/11/24/countdown-to-genocide/
Right, that is what I was trying to say.
I mean, to be frank, I can't remember any actual news of fighting between Israel and Hamas. The last ones were maybe a year ago- if I am wrong, please correct me. Instead, all the news are 'Israel indiscriminately killing everybody with 0 casualties of their own'. Isn't really a war anymore. Maybe it was for a bit at the beginning, but Hamas and all its allies were decimated within the first year and a half of it. They are more or less undone from what I gather. All that is left is genocide now. I really struggle to call it a 'war' while Ukraine VS Russia is happening where both sides are taking heavy losses and the outcome is uncertain. With Israel, the outcome is pretty clear and certain- eradicating or displacing all Palestinians. They don't even pretend it's about Hamas anymore, because Hamas and it's allies are mostly gone and/or crippled.
The most recent news I could find was from yesterday, Hamas killed a few Israeli soldiers with mortar fire in Al-Zaytoun.