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[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Well, Wayland forces client side decorations which I’ve never agreed with.

[–] stuner@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

No, that's Gnome, not Wayland. KDE still prefers SSD on Wayland.

[–] Markaos@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wayland does force clients to be able to cope with a compositor that doesn't do SSD - CSD support is mandatory, SSD optional.

[–] stuner@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Interesting, I didn't know that but it seems like Wayland is indeed CSD by default. However, all relevant compositors except for Mutter support xdg-decoration (https://wayland.app/protocols/xdg-decoration-unstable-v1). So in practice it's still only a Gnome issue.

[–] deadcade@lemmy.deadca.de 13 points 3 days ago

GNOME devs simply can't "tolerate" SSD, and force CSD in every scenario for GTK4. My machines running Wayland only have CSD for fully custom apps (like Steam) and every GTK4 app.