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E: apparently it needs to be said that I am not suggesting you switch to Linux on your phone today; just that development needs to accelerate. Please don't be one of the 34 people that replied to tell me Linux is not ready.

Android has always been a fairly open platform, especially if you were deliberate about getting it that way, but we've seen in recent months an extremely rapid devolution of the Android ecosystem:

  1. The closing of development of an increasing number of components in AOSP.
  2. Samsung, Xiaomi and OnePlus have removed the option of bootloader unlocking on all of their devices. I suspect Google is not far behind.
  3. Google implementing Play Integrity API and encouraging developers to implement it. Notably the EU's own identity verification wallet requires this, in stark contrast to their own laws and policies, despite the protest of hundreds on Github.
  4. And finally, the mandatory implementation of developer verification across Android systems. Yes, if you're running a 3rd-party OS like GOS you won't be directly affected by this, but it will impact 99.9% of devices, and I foresee many open source developers just opting out of developing apps for Android entirely as a result. We've already seen SyncThing simply discontinue development for this reason, citing issues with Google Play Store. They've also repeatedly denied updates for NextCloud with no explanation, only restoring it after mass outcry. And we've already seen Google targeting any software intended to circumvent ads, labeling them in the system as "dangerous" and "untrusted". This will most certainly carry into their new "verification" system.

Google once competed with Apple for customers. But in a world where Google walks away from the biggest antitrust trial since 1998 with yet another slap on the wrist, competition is dead, and Google is taking notes from Apple about what they can legally get away with.

Android as we know it is dead. And/or will be dead very soon. We need an open replacement.

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[–] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 11 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Definitely going to be trying for some kind of linux phone for my next one.

Debating biting the bullet on the ~$800 cost of a fairphone.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I was looking into Fairphone and got sketched out, they do not really seem particularly trustworthy or competent.

For example: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/24134-devices-lacking-standard-privacysecurity-patches-and-protections-arent-private

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

i know it is still google, but i just started searching ebay for a used pixel 9 - looks like they are around $400-500 (pixel 10 came out last month). i figure getting graphene os on one of these may be an inexpensive path forward... still looking for good options, tho.

i'll have to check out fairphone. i remember something about them not being available in the US, but that may be old news.

[–] tuckerm@feddit.online 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

There's a distributor, Murena, selling the Fairphone 4 and Fairphone 6 in the U.S. now. The Fairphone isn't fully usable with Linux yet, though. Calls, camera, and GPS all still apparently aren't working 100% with postmarket OS. I'm not aware of any other distribution that does any better. https://wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Category:Fairphone

[–] poVoq@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] tuckerm@feddit.online 2 points 1 day ago

Oh nice! That is very encouraging.

[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

oof, no wifi is kind of a dealbreaker for me; i have a home server and really dont want to have to be VPN'd into my home all the time :(

looks like fairphone 6 doesnt have much support on postmarket yet, but i'll keep an eye on it - ty <3

[–] tuckerm@feddit.online 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I don't think the Fairphone 6 is quite ready. In fact, since none of the previous Fairphone models ever got to full Linux usability, I don't really expect it to happen.

I think the best option -- and really the only option -- right now is the Furilabs FLX1. I'm planning on getting one soon.

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago

I want one, too, as soon as the second batch is available. I hope there are some left after all the pre-orders are sent out.