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Will Bunch expresses what I've been thinking since Trump was elected. American democracy is under attack from within. The fascists who yearn for an authoritarian government in the media are promoting it, and the media who supposedly don't support it fail to recognize it. They are busy trying to follow the political playbook of the 20th century.

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[-] admiralteal@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There is no such thing as news that does not have analysis and editorial processing in it. The more someone tries to pretend there is no implicit bias in their reporting on facts the more nervous you should be.

Being upfront about your biases, writing persuasively, and admitting/addressing counterfactuals and limitations is the honest way to report the news.

[-] Mudface@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I couldn’t disagree more.

I think doing this is what’s got us into this pickle to begin with, where everything is so ultra partisan

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They're right though. The best propaganda is built on facts out of context.

The truth is even during the days of Edward R Murrow the news was still highly biased and politicized. Whether or not you chose to acknowledge it. No matter how neutral or unbiased you try to be. The ways in which you choose to frame things, or the things you choose to focus on. Will always Expose and push your own biasses. Anyone who thinks they can truly Escape such things has little clue of what they're talking about. If scientists and researchers can't create AI devoid of Mankind's worst biases and bigotry. What makes you think actual people can escape it?

[-] Mudface@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

But why should we settle on propaganda being the state of things? Shouldn’t this be unacceptable?

I see it like racism, sure it exists and it has existed for a long time, and maybe it’s even getting worse and more obvious. Doesn’t mean we shouldn’t fight back against it and demand better though.

Same with journalists, imo. Demand they be better. If you’re presenting you own biased take at least present the best arguments the other side has.

The point should be to inform the reader and for the audience to make up their own minds from the stated facts, not looking to a journalist to tell them what to think.

I understand this is the implicit bias argument, but there are ways around that, regardless of how much affect you think it may have.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Because of human nature. The most sure way to go wrong is to believe that we can ever be truly objective. We all have biases, and bigotry. Show me anyone that claims otherwise and I will show you a liar.

The best we can hope for is to be aware of our own biases. And be open to people who don't share them. And most importantly not tolerating intolerant people. No matter how much they play into our own biases.

Outside of that. Avoid all for profit news as much as possible. And 24hour outlets like the plague. Stick to outlets like PBS, the BBC, possibly even local news. (As long as it isn't Sinclair owned) They will all have bias and framing still. But less so than other outlets. And whenever someone makes a point of telling you that they are balanced or objective. Then just assume their trying to hide their biases. And should noy be trusted.

[-] Mudface@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

CBC is still holding on here in Canada as best it can to provide more than one side to every story. But even that is showing it’s cracks

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