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I see a flag for Ukraine, the american flag, etc.
I don't see a picture of Newsom's face on a giant flag. I see the kind of banner thats been getting hung on an overpass for half a century.
I can't comprehend how you think those pictures look remotely the same.
I also don't appreciate the bonus made up racism you decided to add in there.
Edit:
Just to be clear, is this palestinian maga?
Because it just looks like people supporting the Gazans to me. Your "bluemaga" example looks remarkably similar. Can you clarify?
the sign they're flying says 'newsom's [dick] is bigger ' totally normal political messaging and nothing cult-like.
the trump overpass and the newsom overpass are both flying gadsten flags too, pretty much exclusively a right wing libertarian thing flown by chuds.
I agree thats weird, but its specifically related to what has been annoying Trump of late. Less about Newsom and more about trolling Trump.
Which I absolutely agree is weird messaging, btw. I hate this.
Thats not actually a gadsden flag though, if thats the one I'm thinking of. Note the extra text on top, that flag is poking fun at the gadsden flag wavers.
it's so fucking weird, I hate it too
I think that's just a Gadsden flag, libs have been talking about 'reclaiming' it for months
Sweet milky cheeses that is disturbing. Contextually, clearly a response to Trump's use of AI, but what a shit choice of imagery....
What I'm afraid of is not "blue maga", which I will stand behind my statement of "does not exist". Still not remotely hitting that maga territory.
No, what I'm afraid of is this style of messaging taking over politics for the future to come. Where it isn't about what the actual policies are, but memes and trolling bullshit.
I think the case I would make is that they are definitely emulating trumps style because they think it will help them 'win' same type of triangulation they always do.
we can set 'blue maga' aside as we're probably not going to agree on that, but there's absolutely a contingent of Democrats who see restricting trans medical care as a nonpartisan issue that they can work with Republicans on.
what worries me is how quickly they jumped to finding compromise positions with Republicans, at the expense of minorities who are expected to then vote for them or they get called 'pro Trump's as I so often get accused of.
I would agree that is Newsom's approach, and potentially the party leaders (though I think they are also incapable of doing it well, but thats a whole separate matter).
Edited to add: Btw, this is why I'm worried about the policy>soundbites>memes transition. Its going to lead to exactly the type of "fascist-friendly" compromises you're referring to, imo.
Definitely agree to disagree :)
And disturbingly damn true.
I will say I agree with both here, depending on timing. If we're talking at the general election - yes, a protest vote is fundamentally a pro-Trump vote. This is entirely a FPTP created problem, where the choice is between two dogshit options.
If we had proportional representation, ranked choice, approval, score, whatever, elections in the USA would be in a much better position for a whole host of reasons, but mostly because we wouldn't have this A/B restriction.
Before even any primary has happened? No, screw that, rip into them. Replace them with someone better if possible. Thats what I've been working toward with the WFP, the only 3rd party near me with anyone actually trying to run. Didn't work out last election but I'll keep trying.
Which was a long-winded and rambling way of saying - when it comes to FPTP, timing is important, and protest votes can be effectively a vote for the (much, much, much) worse option.
I do get the issue with FPTP, I wish we had something to break the stasis. I am in a blue state, some of our federal reps run un-opposed and it gives me a jaded outlook on electoral participation; the result has always been a forgone conclusion in my state since as long as I've been of voting age.
I usually vote third party as a vote of no confidence, but then people act like this is some battleground where you're literally the enemy if you don't vote the right way
Especially running unopposed, I entirely understand a protest vote. I do think too often everyone assumes everything is a battleground, to me the biggest concern is strategy. I absolutely loathe the "part time candidates" like Jill Stein for the record, who only ever shows up at election time, and does absolutely nothing outside of election years. Just grifters wrapped in a different color imo.
I also think too often people who live in a "safe state" underestimate just how much of a battleground others can be though, which is why I'm not a fan of considering all democrats to be the same either. The leadership sucks, and so, so, so many of the long-standing elected representatives do, but using the "D" next to your name under the current structure of voting is substantially beneficial, and fracturing the vote with a third party in a local/state/federal election by competing on who can be more progressive is flirting with the risk of losing out entirely to regressive fascists, which also really sucks for us.
I just hope we avoid the accelerationist timelines, which I think will be far more horrifying than most people realize. Maybe its from me visiting places that have seen civil war and devastation, but I'm really hopeful that we never have to see that here (and still get rid of the fascists).
I don't like the green party either at this point, I liked Ralph Nader when he ran because he actually had a track record of being critical of the automobile industry. I definitely haven't voted for them since though.
I've had enough relatives live through civil war and famine to not want to find out about it either. I'd like to think that cooler heads prevail.