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I know this is an extreme case, but IMO it's not the banks job to punish criminals. They should continue business as usual, in case the person was wrongfully convicted. It's the governments job to freeze or seize assets. In this particular case this may feel uncomfortable, but you wouldn't want the bank to pro-actively, maybe even automatically freeze your account when you forget to pay a parking ticket or so, because this is where this is going.
and yet mastercard etc are capable of harassing valve.
I don't know whether it's your intention, but that's an argument in favour of the comment you replied to.
I'm just mad that the excuse for Epstein , Trump et al getting no reprimand is this, but when it comes to games, suddenly this doesn't apply anymore.
This definitely wasn't business as usual. Epstein was flagged repeatedly for engaging in cash withdrawal patterns that suggested illegal activities and bank execs chose to continue allowing those withdrawals. Additionally, if your banker is also consulting you on business decision about the bank, you are not just a regular bank customer. It is clear from the article that JP Morgan executives knew Epstein and actively facilitated his criminal enterprise.
From the (very long) NYT article that dropped today about this:
Obviously trustworthy banks don't enable money laundering, so he should really have been dropped in the 90's/00's. Certainly his '11 conviction should have been the end of it. Incarcerated white-collar criminals usually lose big after the first conviction because the revenue stream has dried up and the justice-averting lawyers can't be paid. In this case, his contacts kept the money moving because they were embroiled in the same schemes.
Yeah i have to agree, banks shouldn't even have the option to just decide to process the money.
Business should not facilitate crime. It’s illegal, as well as immoral.
Private companies should not be independent judges with enforcement powers.
They have no problem censoring legal NSFW content. But when it comes to actual crimes, laissez faire.
They're not independent judges, they have guidelines and tools for illegal practices. They ignore those for rich friends. They ignore them for people that pay them a lot, but they still get in trouble for facilitating money laundering every now and again when those people aren't connected enough.
Agreed, this is blame shifting. Just like blaming companies for doing things for profit that are not regulated well enough, or enforced/fined enough.