this post was submitted on 06 Sep 2025
19 points (73.2% liked)
Technology
40289 readers
432 users here now
A nice place to discuss rumors, happenings, innovations, and challenges in the technology sphere. We also welcome discussions on the intersections of technology and society. If it’s technological news or discussion of technology, it probably belongs here.
Remember the overriding ethos on Beehaw: Be(e) Nice. Each user you encounter here is a person, and should be treated with kindness (even if they’re wrong, or use a Linux distro you don’t like). Personal attacks will not be tolerated.
Subcommunities on Beehaw:
This community's icon was made by Aaron Schneider, under the CC-BY-NC-SA 4.0 license.
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
English is notoriously awful regarding orthography vs pronunciation. I actually thought you meant something that rhymed with Bach just looking at the name with a longer 'a' for some reason (which is weird since vowel length isn't phonemic in English).
Edit: you probably also could have said "hard a" or something since it probably literally thinks 'long a' means 'hold the a sound for a longer duration' (which makes sense to me)
The Great Vowel Shift in Middle English should be well understood by a computer system given that it happened centuries ago.
"Long a" (in most European languages, this is "e," and I can't be fucked to look up the IPA [OK, after realising I should include the link, we're talking about [aɪ]]) and "short a" (closest I can come up with is "ä" in German, though the throat positions are different [eɪ]) were literally taught to me as the educational term in first grade.
If the training corpus is so poor that what a 6-year-old understands in the '80s is utterly baffling, NLP hasn't advanced near as much as it should have.